[Lingtyp] Phonological differences of alienable vs. inalienable possession

[Mark Van de Velde]

Dear all,

The same phenomenon can be found with kinship terms in the Bantu 
languages, where there is a cline going from full suppletion (typically 
for 'father' and 'mother' with a singular possessor) at one extreme, to 
the use of an independent agreeing possessive pronoun at the other. In 
between, we find the use of a personal ("substitutive") pronoun instead 
of a possessive pronoun ("they mother"), and possessive pronouns that 
lack an agreement marker and/or are more strongly morphologically and 
phonologically bound to the possessee, which can be reflected in their 
position in the noun phrase.

You may find a brief overview and some examples in Section 5 of the 
attached paper, to appear in the Oxford Guide to the Bantu Languages.

All best wishes,

Mark



On 31/01/2022 09:52, Nigel Vincent wrote:
> Dear Marie-Luise,
> In many southern Italian 'dialects' and in Romanian the possessive for 
> inalienables is an enclitic marker derived from the same etymological 
> source as the alienable possessive e.g. Neapolitan /patemo/ 'my 
> father' vs /o cane mio /'my dog' - literally 'the dog my', where 
> both/mio/ and /mo /are reflexes, respectively tonic and atonic, of 
> Latin /meu(m). /There is a brief discussion with references on pp. 
> 755-6 of my chapter 'Determination and quantification' in Andreas 
> Dufter & Elisabeth Stark (eds) /Manual of Romance Morphosyntax and 
> Syntax/, De Gruyter, 2017.
> Best
> Nigel
>
>
> Professor Nigel Vincent, FBA MAE
> Professor Emeritus of General & Romance Linguistics
> The University of Manchester
>
> Linguistics & English Language
> School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
> The University of Manchester
>
>
>
> https://www.research.manchester.ac.uk/portal/en/researchers/nigel-vincent(f973a991-8ece-453e-abc5-3ca198c869dc).html
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> *From:* Lingtyp <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org> on behalf 
> of TasakuTsunoda <tasakutsunoda at nifty.com>
> *Sent:* 31 January 2022 8:41 AM
> *To:* Marie-Luise Popp <marie_luise.popp at uni-leipzig.de>; 
> lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org <lingtyp at listserv.linguistlist.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lingtyp] Phonological differences of alienable vs. 
> inalienable possession
>
> 2022/01/31
>
> Dear Colleague,
>
>     The following work may be relevant.
>
> Haiman, John. 1985. /Natural syntax[:] Iconicity and erosion/. 
> Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.
>
> I don’t have an access to this book now, but if I remember correctly, 
> this book discusses morphosyntactic differences between expressions of 
> alienable possession and those of inalienable possession. It may 
> discuss phonological differences as well.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tasaku Tsunoda
>
> 2022/01/28 20:10 に、"Lingtyp (Marie-Luise Popp の代理)" 
> <lingtyp-bounces at listserv.linguistlist.org 
> (marie_luise.popp at uni-leipzig.de の代理)> を書き込みました:
>
>     Dear all,
>
>     I'm looking for languages, in which alienable and inalienable 
> possession
>
>     is marked by the same set (or at least - phonologically similar)
>
>     exponents, yet do these exponents undergo different phonological
>
>     processes in alienable vs. inalienable possession.
>
>     In Ojibwe, for example, vowel hiatus is resolved via consonant
>
>     epenthesis in alienable possession, but via deletion in inalienable
>
>     possession.
>
>     If anyone knows of more languages of this type, I would be 
> grateful for
>
>     references and comments.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Luise (Leipzig University)
>
>     --
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