8.742, Qs: Perfect, Practical Phonetics

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Subject: 8.742, Qs: Perfect, Practical Phonetics

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Date:  Tue, 13 May 1997 23:46:21 +1000
From:  Stuart.Robinson at anu.edu.au (Stuart Robinson)
Subject:  Special Treatment for the Perfect

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Date:  Thu, 15 May 1997 20:46:50 +0200
From:  mark.janse at rug.ac.be (Mark Janse)
Subject:  Practical Phonetics

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Date:  Tue, 13 May 1997 23:46:21 +1000
From:  Stuart.Robinson at anu.edu.au (Stuart Robinson)
Subject:  Special Treatment for the Perfect

   [Editor's Note: The query below is reposted as per
   author's request since the symbols for 'equal' and 'not
   equal' were not displayed legibly in the previous message]

I am investigating case-marking splits by tense/aspect and have
learned of splits which treat clauses in the perfect (as defined
by Comrie, 1976) quite differently than clauses in other
tense/aspect categories.  In particular, I am looking for
languages where either O is equal to S or S is not equal to A in
the perfect but either S is equal to A or O is not equal to S
holds elsewhere.  Apparently, Classical Armenian is such a
language: A is equal to S in the aorist (past perfective) and imperfective
but not in the perfect, where A is not equal to S.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Stuart Robinson
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Stuart Robinson <Stuart.Robinson at anu.edu.au>
Linguistics Department
Australian National University
Canberra ACT 0200


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Date:  Thu, 15 May 1997 20:46:50 +0200
From:  mark.janse at rug.ac.be (Mark Janse)
Subject:  Practical Phonetics


I am looking for reference works in practical phonetics
describing phonetic aspects of sound changes such as, e.g.,
palatalization. The reason is that I want to provide evidence
from contemporary languages and their dialects to illustrate the
reality of various phonetic processes students have to come to
grips with in a course on historical linguistics. I don't know
if anything like a database of phonetic processes is available,
but that would certainly be a desideratum.

Mark Janse

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