14.1554, Qs: Hindi Scrambling; Etymology of 'Paleo'

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LINGUIST List:  Vol-14-1554. Mon Jun 2 2003. ISSN: 1068-4875.

Subject: 14.1554, Qs: Hindi Scrambling; Etymology of 'Paleo'

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1)
Date:  Sat, 31 May 2003 01:29:47 +0000
From:  Toru Ishii <tishii at kisc.meiji.ac.jp>
Subject:  Hindi Scrambling

2)
Date:  Sun, 01 Jun 2003 07:41:37 +0000
From:  "A.S. Sundar" <yasun52 at hotmail.com>
Subject:  ETYMOLOGY OF THE GREEK WORD 'PALEO'

-------------------------------- Message 1 -------------------------------

Date:  Sat, 31 May 2003 01:29:47 +0000
From:  Toru Ishii <tishii at kisc.meiji.ac.jp>
Subject:  Hindi Scrambling

Dear All,

     Mahajan (1990) observes that clause-internal scrambling does not
remedy the Weakcross Over (WCO) effects when the scrambled phrase is a
non-agreeing object, citing the following example:

(1) *?kOn se laRkaa uskii maaN (t) ghar  se  nikaal degii
      which boy     his mother     home from throw out (fut)
     'Which boy will his mother throw out of the house?'
     (where ''kOn se laRkaai (which boy)'' = ''uskii (his)'')

I'd like to know whether the WCO effects also appear when non-agreeing
objects undergo long-distance scrambling.  Conceretly, are (2, 3)
acceptable or not under the interpretation that ''kOn se laRkaai
(which boy)'' = ''uskii (his)''?  In (2), the bound pronoun ''uskii
(his)'' is in the embedded subject position; in (3), it is in the
matrix subject position:

(2) kOn se laRkaa raam-ne  socaa  [ki   uskii maaN (t) ghar
    which boy      Ram-erg thought that his   mother   home
    se nikaal dii]
   from threw out
    'Which boy did Ram think that his mother threw (t) out of
     the house?'

(3) kOn se laRkaa uskii maaN-ne  socaa   [ki  Sita (t) ghar
    which boy     his mother-erg thought  that Sita    home
    se nikaal dii]
    from throw out
    'Which boy did his mother think that Sita threw (t) out
    of the house?'

I've constructed the above examples by myself, so there may be
mistakes about agreement, Case, choice of words, etc.  If you find any
mistakes, please correct them and inform me of your judgements of the
corrected ones.  Thanks.

Toru Ishii
School of Arts and Letters
Meiji University, Tokyo, JAPAN
tishii at kisc.meiji.ac.jp

Subject-Language: Hindi; Code: HND


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Date:  Sun, 01 Jun 2003 07:41:37 +0000
From:  "A.S. Sundar" <yasun52 at hotmail.com>
Subject:  ETYMOLOGY OF THE GREEK WORD 'PALEO'

    The word "paleo-" used in English is a learned borrowing from Greek
"palaio" meaning "old". The following words in English are compound
words formed with the above word. The list is not exhaustive.
    Paleethnology, paleobiology, paleobotany, paleocene, paleography,
paleogene, paleogeography, paleography, paleology etc.
    This word " paleo" is seen in a no of words belonging to Tamil
language, considered to be one of the oldest languages of the
world. The Tamil words relating to the word "paleo" and their meanings
are furnished below.
               " Palaia" means " old"
                "Palaia choru" means "old rice"
               "Palaiaaroo" means "old river"
    The similarity between the two words is striking. To find out
whether this word was borrowed by Tamil from Greek or vice-versa, we
may scrutinise the root of this word in both the languages. In Tamil
"palu" is a verb which means to "ripe". A ripe fruit is called "palam"
in Tamil.From the word "palam" the word "palutha" is derived. This
word "palutha" means ripe old,thus denoting old age. "Palaia" is a
extended form of "palutha". The opposite of "palaia" is "puthia" which
means "new".This pattern of "opposites words" formation is the
characteristic of Tamil language. In spoken Tamil "old" is refered as
"palasu". The absence of such comparable words in Greek leads one to
safely conclude that the word "paleo" used widely in English, has
Tamil roots.The word might have reached Greek language from Tamil
during their trade contacts with the Tamil nations circa 4 century
B.C. Evidence of trade between the two peoples is available in early
Tamil literature.

                        Comments and suggestions welcome.

A.S.Sundar
Etymologist

Subject-Language: Greek; Code: GRK

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