LL-L: "Lowlands-L" [E] LOWLANDS-L, 14.MAY.1999 (03)

RFH sassisch at geocities.com
Fri May 14 20:30:58 UTC 1999


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 L O W L A N D S - L * 14.MAY.1999 (03) * ISSN 1089-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
 Posting Address: <lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org>
 Web Site: <http://www.geocities.com/~sassisch/rhahn/lowlands/>
 Users Manual: <http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8c/userindex.html>
 A=Afrikaans, Ap=Appalachian, D=Dutch, E=English, F=Frisian,
 L=Limburgish, LS=Low Saxon (Low German), S=Scots, Sh=Shetlandic
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From: "Sandy Fleming" <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Lowlands-L

> Our good friend  +Fr Andreas Richard Turner writes:
>
> "Sorry to bother you off-list, but I am having some trouble with reading
> the characters we are now supposed to be able to read. Do you have some
> instruction to offer the list about how to set the font in their e-mail
> programs so that we can read these non-US ASCII characters?"

I can't see special characters either, although I've had mail from other
people with various kinds of formatting. Relevant details:

I use Outlook 98 as a mailer, Windows 95 OS.

The mails I'm getting from Lowlands-L are marked as plain text. The option
to change to Rich Text Format is greyed in the menu for the mail item
itself
- it's functional on the reply/send window, but that's no use because that
controls the type of text I send, not the type I receive.

I've tried Emailing myself with special characters (and fonts &c) and it
works fine. Here's a sample line cut and pasted from the Email - there
should be a
caret over the "e" in "special":

Mail with spêcial characters.

My conclusion is that text is being sent to me in plain text format from
the list, so I don't see what I can do about that.

I've tried downloading the Listserv manual to see if there's a command I
can send to request mail to be sent in RTF, but my browser can't download
it because the server sends extended information! I know I can use FTP or
something, but haven't tried it yet.

Sandy Fleming

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at geocities.com>
Subject: Lowlands-L

Hi, Sandy!

Obviously we are trying to cope with poor compatibility between programs.
When I send stuff from the Netscape mailer, the choices of formats I get
are "Plain Text Only," "Plain Text and HTML,"
and "HTML Only."  By default it sends in plain text.  Once I start
formating anything, it wants me to use one of the options with HTML.  Rich
Text is not an option.  I am not totally sure, but I assume that the
archive wants plain text.  I noticed that in your submission you colored
your name blue.  When I copied it into this issue it went to default black
because my text is in plain text.  If I use the HTML option some people
will only get gobbledigook.  So, please no HTML format submissions, folks!
Anyway, "Plain Text" does not mean that you cannot use special characters.
It only appears that there are differences in the way the various systems
*handle* special characters.

Maybe one of our techno-wizzes have an idea how to get us all onto the same
page.

LL-L ADMINISTRATIVE ROSTER
(Latest revision)

Deputy Owners:
     1. Ted Harding <Ted.Harding at nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
     2. Ian Parsley <I.J.Parsley at newcastle.ac.uk>
     3. Sandy Fleming <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>

Technical Consultant:
     Ted Harding <Ted.Harding at nessie.mcc.ac.uk>

Editors:
    1. Ted Harding <Ted.Harding at nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
    2. Ian Parsley <I.J.Parsley at newcastle.ac.uk>
    3. Alfred Brothers <alfredb at erols.com>
    4. Sandy Fleming <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>
    5. Robert Thiel <gavilan at nbet.nb.ca>

Language consultants:
  Language identification:
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
     Roger Thijs <Roger.Thijs at village.uunet.be>
  Afrikaans:
     Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at simpross.co.za>
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
  Dutch:
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
     Roger Thijs <Roger.Thijs at village.uunet.be>
     J.H. van de Pol <poljut at a1.nl>
  Frisian:
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
  Limburgian:
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Roger Thijs <Roger.Thijs at village.uunet.be>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
  Low Saxon <Low German>:
     Pepijn Hendriks <pepijnh at bibfoot.com>
     Floor van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
     J.H. van de Pol <poljut at a1.nl>
  Scots/British Isles affairs:
     Sandy Fleming <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>
     John Tait <jmtait at jmt.prestel.co.uk>
     Ian Parsley <I.J.Parsley at newcastle.ac.uk>

Regards,

Reinhard/Ron

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