LL-L: "Phonology" LOWLANDS-L, 21.OCT.1999 (07) [E/S]

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From: Andrew Eagle [K27 at compuserve.com]
Subject: Why is it pronounced...? [S/E]

(English below)

A'v been winnerin gin thare's onie kin o phonological 'rule' ahint the
pronunciation o final <se> in Scots wirds.
Final <se> is whiles pronounced /s/ an whiles /z/.

Ensaumples o wirds that's pronounced wi  /z/ :lowse, brouse, pease, phrase,
please, uise, jalouse an vause etc.
En saumples o wirds that's  pronounced  wi /s/: loose, manse, mense, merse,
moose, hoose, coorse, dilse, grilse an traipse etc.

Onie thochties anent whit wey this wirks?

I've been wondering if there is any kind of phonological 'rule' governing
the pronunciation of final <se> in Scots words.
Final <se> is sometimes pronounced /z/ and sometimes /s/.

Examples of words which are pronounced with  /z/ :lowse (loosen), brouse
(browse), pease (pea(s)),  phrase, please, uise (use v.), jalouse (suspect)
an vause (vase) etc.
Examples of words which are pronounced  with /s/: loose, manse, mense
(sence), merse (flat land by a river), moose (mouse), hoose (house), coorse
(course), dilse (dulse), grilse (young salmon) an traipse (trudge v). etc.

Any ideas as to how this works?

Andy

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Phonology

Andy wrote:

> Any ideas as to how this works?

Andy, how about simply this: "They are underlyingly (phonemically) distinct as
/z/ and /s/?"
Could it be a case of an inconsistent orthographic system (Hi, Sandy!)
clouding the issue?

E.g.,
 _moose_ = /muus/
_brouse_ = /bruz/

Or is there something I'm missing?

Regairds,

Reinhard/Ron

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