LL-L: "Phonetics" [E] LOWLANDS-L, 30.SEP.1999 (02)

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From: Dr James M Scobbie [j.scobbie at sls.qmced.ac.uk]
Subject: LL-L: "Phonetics" [S] LOWLANDS-L, 29.SEP.1999 (02)

> While oo'r on the fichery bits o phonetics, A wad say an aa that
> the soonds
> oo uizually write [u] an [o] in SAMPA's for Scots better written
> in the IPA
> wi a horizontal bar throu them (like the RTF "Strikeoot" effect) tae shaw
> they're central raither nor back (this is true in Lowden Scots, onyroads -
> A'd think it wis true in maist Scots, tho). Uizin the IPA seembols athoot
> the bar (i.e., juist [u] & [o]) wad be ettlin at a richt poot whan sayin
> thae soonds, like happens in French, but it's no like that in Scots.
>
> Sandy

Long time no post. In Glasgow English (both middle and working class)
the /u/ is very central (in terms of F2) whereas /o/ (and /open-o/)
are pretty back. Also, /u/ is not as high a vowel (in terms of F1) as
either /i/ or /o/. Impressionistically, I've heard even lower and
fronter /u/ from other speakers that are almost a rounded retracted /e/.
In Scots, is the central /u/ usually pretty high? Is the lowered /u/
a glaswegian thing, a Scottish English thing (rather than Scots) or
is it connected a merger of /I/ and /u/ in some words (meaning
that "good" and "bid" rhyme?

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