LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 01.DEC.2000 (01) [E]

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From: $ Elsie Zinsser [ezinsser at simpross.co.za]
Subject: LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 30.NOV.2000 (02) [E]

Haai, almal!

Just for interest sake, and focused on the semantics rather than the
etymology of _sweep_, _karwats_ and _piets_ in Afrikaans:
*       "sweep" is a whip (longer item for use on cattle);
*       "karwats" (a much shorter version, commonly used for horse
riding); and
*       "piets" seems to have taken more prominence as a verb than a
noun, as in "Kom laat ek jou piets" (jocular).

Groete!
Elsie Zinsser

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

Thanks to Elsie for the Afrikaans equivalents for 'whip':

Low Saxon
(Low German)            Afrikaans
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Sweep                   sweep
Klabatsch?              karwats (onom.? French _cravache_?) ???
Pietsch, pietschen      piets

Considering that Low Saxon /ii/ (_ie_ [i:]) consistently corresponds to Dutch
/ei/ (_ij_) and Afrikaans /@i/ (_y_), that we would have to expect Afrikaans
*_pyts_ rather than _piets_, and that Low Saxon _Pietsch_ appears to be a
Slavic loan, could we not pretty safely say that _piets_ is a Low Saxon in
Afrikaans?

Cf.:
Low Saxon
(Low German)    Afrikaans       Dutch
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Lien            lyn             lijn    'line', 'rope'
bieten          byt             bijten  'to bite'
Wien            wyn             wijn    'wine'
Liek            lyk             lijk    'corpse'
kieken          kyk             kijken  'to look'

Does _piets_ also occur in Dutch dialects and in Low Saxon dialects of the
Netherlands?

Incidentally, the equivalent in Mennonite Low Saxon (Plautdietsch) is nominal
_Pitsch_ and verbal _fepitsche_.  Is the _i_ short ([I]) or long ([i:])?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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