LL-L: "Etymology" LOWLANDS-L, 18.DEC.2000 (01) [E]

[Lowlands-L]

======================================================================
  L O W L A N D S - L * 18.DEC.2000 (01) * ISSN 189-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
  Posting Address: <lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org>
  Web Site: <http://www.geocities.com/sassisch/rhahn/lowlands/>
  User's Manual: <http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8c/userindex.html>
  Archive: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html>
  =======================================================================
  A=Afrikaans, Ap=Appalachean, D=Dutch, E=English, F=Frisian, L=Limburgish
  LS=Low Saxon (Low German), S=Scots, Sh=Shetlandic, Z=Zeelandic (Zeeuws)
  =======================================================================

From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
Subject: "Etymology"

> From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
> Subject: Online resources
>
> I noticed the word _kist_.

The Scottish National Dictionary lists this as coming from Old
Norse, ie one of the many words in Scots and Northumbrian where
a [k] sound corresponds to the [tS] in the equivalent English
word (kirk/church &c).

"Kist" in Scots corresponds to English "chest", and can be used
to mean the human chest as well as a trunk, coffer &c. The phrase
"a kist o whistles" is also used to refer to a church organ.

I must say though, that I've noticed quite a lot of Low Saxon
words in Scots since I joined Lowlands-L and became aware of
Low Saxon as a language, a couple I remember from recent
look-ups of the dictionary being "slammachs" (slime, cobwebs)
and "cliftie" (skilful, clever). Strangely enough, "cliftie"
is marked as an obsolete (C19) word in the SND - rather annoying
since it is still current in my area!

Sandy
http://scotstext.org
A dinna dout him, for he says that he
On nae accoont wad ever tell a lee.
                          - C.W.Wade,
                    'The Adventures o McNab'

----------

From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Etymology

[The following is in Low Saxon (Low German) and English.]

Leve Leeglanners,
Weett wen mank Ju, waar dat Woord "Adebaar" vun afkümmt?  Up Nedderlandsch
un Afrikaans is't verwandt: _ooievaar_.  Man in annere germaansche
Spraken?  T.B. ingelsch _stork_, düütsch _Storch_, ieslandsch _storkur_,
deensch/norweegsch/sweedsch _stork_.  (Freessch?)  In düütsche Mundaarden
kann 'n ook "Adebar" seggen, man bloots in'n Noorden, un dat kümmt sachs
vun use Spraak af.
Dank un Gröten,
Reinhard/Ron

Dear Lowlanders,
Does any of you know the origin of the Low Saxon (Low German) word
_Adebaar_ 'stork'?  In Dutch and Afrikaans it is related: _ooievaar_.  But
in other Germanic languages?  E.g. English _stork_, German _Storch_,
Icelandic _storkur_, Danish/Norwegian/Swedish _stork_.  (Frisian?)  Some
German dialects also use _Adebar_, but only in the North, and I assume it
is Low-Saxon-derived.
Thanks and regards,
Reinhard/Ron

==================================END===================================
  You have received this because your account has been subscribed upon
  request. To unsubscribe, please send the command "signoff lowlands-l"
  as message text from the same account to
  <listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org> or sign off at
  <http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html>.
  =======================================================================
  * Please submit contributions to <lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org>.
  * Contributions will be displayed unedited in digest form.
  * Please display only the relevant parts of quotes in your replies.
  * Commands for automated functions (including "signoff lowlands-l") are
    to be sent to <listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org> or at
    <http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html>.
  * Please use only Plain Text format, not Rich Text (HTML) or any other
    type of format, in your submissions
  =====================================================================