LL-L: "Slavic connections" (was "Language varieties") LOWLANDS-L, 6.JUL.2000 (04) [E]

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From: Kent Randau [kentr at tripnet.se]
Subject: Re: LL-L: "Language varieties" 06.JUL.2000 (01) [E]

>From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
>Subject: Language varieties
>
>Pepijn:
>
>> (Russian _knjaz'_ 'prince' ~ Czech _kne^z_ 'Priest')
>
>Lower Sorbian (Lusatian): kne^z
>Upper Sorbian (Lusatian): knjez (form of address also _knjez^e_ 'sir', 'Mr.
>...')
>
>(^ = hachek on preceding letter)
>
>Both denote 'gentleman', 'sir' or 'Mr.'
>
>< Old Saxon or Old High German _kneht_ (Old English _cniht_)?

Does that mean that there is no connection between the slavic
"knjaz/knjez"-varieties and the germanic word
king/könig/kung/konung/kuningaz etc ?

Best Regards
Kent (in cold and rainy Sweden)

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From: Pepijn Hendriks [pepijnh at bigfoot.com]
Subject: LL-L: "Language varieties" 06.JUL.2000 (01) [E]

Ron,

>> (Russian _knjaz'_ 'prince' ~ Czech _kne^z_ 'Priest')
>Lower Sorbian (Lusatian): kne^z
>Upper Sorbian (Lusatian): knjez (form of address also _knjez^e_ 'sir',
>'Mr. ...') (^ = hachek on preceding letter)

[...]

>< Old Saxon or Old High German _kneht_ (Old English _cniht_)?

No. Old Church-Slavonic _*ku^ne,(d)zi^_ (and its later cognates in
other Slavonic languages) is Germanic, but it is from Germanic
_*kuningaz_ 'king'!

>'Prince' is _princ_ (< German _Prinz_) in both standard varieties of
>Sorbian.

Russian has _princ_ 'prince' as well, but I think this may be used
only when referring to non-Russian princes. The usual translations
of Russian _knjaz'_ in German and Dutch are _Fürst_ and _vorst_
respectively.

-Pepijn

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