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From: Chérie Johnson [mozart215 at worldnet.att.net]
Subject: Help with Frisian

Hello,
  I am new to the list and need some help.  I am interested in learning
Frisian, (Western). I am by no means a linguist as I speak only one
language....English.  I am looking for some materials that will teach a
"beginner" how to speak and read Frisian.  I made a list from the
"off-line materials list" but I have been unable to find any of the
recommended materials, they are either out of print or I can not find
them at all.  Can any one give me recommendations on what to purchase
and where?
Thank you for your input.
Sincerely
Chérie

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From: Roger Thijs [Roger.Thijs at village.uunet.be]
Subject: Language varieties

Walking downtown Antwerp incidentally let one find on the flee market some
interesting books. Today I found some stuff in Lowland varieties. At least
I think what I found is interesting, in Germany people may have it standard

in their bookshelves.

Here it comes;

a - Rektor H. Specht, Das Bentheimer Land,
    V. Grafschafter Volksreime und Sprichwörter,
    1. Teil: Die Sammlung,
    Verlag des Heimatvereins der Grafschaft Bentheim, 1930, 190 pp.
(With ink-stamped p. 1 and 3:
 H. Specht, Rektor
 Nordhorn
 Grafschaft Bentheim)

-- a sample, quote (p.47):

Bi't Spölln - Afftelln

216. Ick tell of,
   èn duw bis droff

217. Aff, kaff,
   dat bin icke nich,
   dat biß du

...235. Tick, tack, toll,
   de Buur, dee namm 'ne Knoll'
   vàn de Waagn,
   sonder iemant te vragn,
   de Knoll, dee was soa heet,
   dat de Buur sick vàn Benouthäit
   in de Buckse ßcheet.
--- endquote

b - Niederdeutsches Jahrbuch
   Jahrbuch des Vereins für niederdeutsche Sprachforschung,
   Jahrgang 1943/47,  LXIX/LXX
   Karl Wacholtz Verlag, Neumünster, 1948, vi + 199 pp

--- a sample, quote (from: Conrad Borchling, Zu den Dantziger Bruchstücken
eines mnd. Streitgedichts zwischen Frau und Magd, pp. 67-70)

So geue ie em me
Muscate vn worte
Up dat he iu dy tit korte
Wille gy iu des nicht vorsinnen.

Vn geuen dat dem papen,
Dat he wolde bi iu slapen.
Nu spreke gy ouerlut,
Ich si ein ouel hut vnde ein brut
Va stele iuwe gut
Dat iar ut vn ut.
Dat hebbe gy scentlicken gheloghe
Da se desse wele hadde gheplogen.

--- end quote

c - Hermann Schmoeckel und Andreas Blesken, Wörterbuch der Soester Börde,
Westfälische Verlagsbuchhanslung, Mocker und Jahn, Soest 1952, xv + 342 pp.

d - Karl Prümer, Volksweisheit aus der Graffschaft Mark, Zweite Auflage der

"Westfälische Volksweisheit", Leipzig, Verlag von Otto Lenz, 1924, v + 82
pp
(in Gothic character setting)

- a sample, quote pp. 54-55

Lot us singen dat nigge Leid, nigge Leid, nigge Leid
Wat in N.N. is passeiert.

Vam Pastor sine Koh-
Triala, Triala, vam Pastor sine Koh ja ja,
Vam Pastor sine Koh.

Gistern was se noch gau un krall,
Van Morgen lag se dod im Stall,
Usse Pastor sine Koh, Triala...

De Köksche hiet 'n Liepel schon,
De kokt sik frissche Bullichon
Vam Pastor sine Koh..

"O Moder, wat sin de Worteln nett!"
"Jo, Junge, dat deit dat Nierenfett"

etc.. etc..
--- end quote

e- Wilhelm Schröder, Jan Peik de noorddütsche Spaßmaker, Berlin, Druck und
Verlag von Otto Janke, (no date, certainly after 1868), 216 pp.
(in Gothic character setting)

-- a sample - quote (p. 184):
De Mekelbörger

De Zeitung bringt de nigen Tiden
Wat in de welt passiert;
Un wenn ok vull sünd alle Sieden,
Is doch oft Väl nicks wierth.
So Manches mackt Een' bange Sorg'!
Toierst doch mütt ick sehn:
Wat man bericht't ut Mekelborg,
Wat Niges doar gescheh'n.
... usw

d- from the Netherlands:
K.D. Schönfeld Wichers, Woordenboek van het Rijssens dialect, 1959, 134 pp

e- Also from the Netherlands:
S. Keyser, Het Tessels, 1951, Brill, Leiden, v + 250 pp.

-- a sample (p. 223) quote:

"Wil je wel gloove Sijme, dòt ik in de wééreld niet begriepe ken, hoe je
òllòn zóó bóós wórre ken òs Ollebert wòt doet dòt niet mit jów begriep
ooveriin kómt? -.."

--- end quote

Regards,

Roger

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