LL-L: "Language planning" LOWLANDS-L, 09.OCT.2000 (10) [E]

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From: Wabmaister [Andy.Eagle at t-online.de]
Subject: LL-L: "Language planning" LOWLANDS-L, 09.OCT.2000 (02) [E]

Sandy Fleming wrote:
> One problem in Scots these days is that enthusiasts
> tackling high-register Scots start to coin new words and
> phrases long before they've exhausted all precedents -
> the real problem being that they can't exhaust all
> precedents because they don't know much of the language
> beyond their own everyday register.

There seems to be a lot of potentially suitable high register 'latinate'
words in older Scots writing, even current Scots legal 'jargon' could be of

use. Unfortunately I'm not familair with this.
I'm often not enthused by some of the undecipherable neologisms that are
created. An older 'latinate' term which can be found in the CSD would be
much better any day. So what if "people don't use those words" is the
derisory cry. How many native English speakers need to consult a dictionary

when confronted with 'latinate' vocabulary? Maybe not much of a problem for

me often reading material containing such like.
Though some of the older spellings may need to be 'modernised'.

One day I hope to delve into the 'latinate' vocabulary of Scots and add it
to my online dictionary, unfortunately there are only 24 hours in the day.

Andy

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From: Wabmaister [Andy.Eagle at t-online.de]
Subject: LL-L: "Language planning" LOWLANDS-L, 08.OCT.2000 (01) [D/E/Z]

> From: Sandy Fleming [sandy at scotstext.org]
> Subject: "Language planning"

<snip>
>Again,
> it suggests the possibility of using "mak gait" for "give way"
> - maybe, maybe not, but the point is that the phrase ultimately
> chosen is done in full knowledge of the alternatives (though
> the spelling favoured by modern writers - "gate" could cause
> problems here - "mak gate"). "Gait" in fact seems to me the
> more usual spelling in most C19 and earlier texts - it's also
> the spelling used in signage in my area - "Hermiston Gait" &c
> (I think enthusiasts tend to chose the "gate" spelling for
> etymological reasons, ie Scand. "gata" - it's not a very
> "Scots" spelling, however).

Interestingly I chose the spelling 'gate' because it seemed to me to be
more
prominent in street names and roadsigns etc. If I remember correctly, in
Dundee, Market Gate is spelt 'Market Gate' at one end and 'Market Gait' at
the other. This being, as far as I know, the only spelling 'gait' of the
many gates in Dundee.
In St. Andrews, There is 'South Gait Hall' on South Street, I'm sure my
grannie called that street 'Sooth Gate' (or Gait). But thare's the
Canongate
in St Andrews as well. I think they are all 'gate' in Edinburgh.

I use 'gait' for goat - the beastie.

Andy

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