LL-L: "History" (was "Kinship") LOWLANDS-L, 09.APR.2001 (02) [E]

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From: Bryan E. Schulz [bryans at northnet.net]
Subject: "Kinship"

At 11:43 AM 4/8/01 -0700, you wrote:

>From: Stefan Israel [stefansfeder at yahoo.com]
>Subject: "Kinship"
>
>Just so- southern Old English was considered Saxon (Wessex,
>Sussex etc.) by the Anglo-Saxons, plus putative Jutish in Kent;
>the rest of England was considered Anglian, and Mercia was one
>of the major subdivisions of Old English Anglian.  I highly
>doubt that the settlement patterns were ever so clear-cut; even
>the Anglo-Saxons were interpreting migrations that had happened
>hundreds of years earlier.  But Mercian, regardless of what
>varieties it came from, was one of the main OE dialects.
>
>Well, bear in mind that merchant ships are sailed not just by a
>few merchants but by the laboring crew.  It's not surprise that
>nautical words like "boom", "deck" etc. were borrowed around
>among Lowland languages, but it would be surprising for such a
>basic word as "self" to jump languages.
>The Zeeuws and Long Eaton English "senn" could be a chance
>resemblance, of course, or maybe both varieties reinforced the
>other's initially independent tendency.  Maybe maybe some
>logbook etc. from a sailor etc. from the relevant centuries is
>still preserved in some archive and could give us some hard
>facts, but probably we're stuck without direct evidence and left
>to arguing competing probabilities.

So, are you then saying that the migration was generally via the
merchant/"Viking" ships?  Some sources say the migration first went north
from the continent of Europe, thru the Scandinavian countries and then to
the British Isles.

Bryan E. Schulz

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