LL-L: "Color terms" LOWLANDS-L, 21.FEB.2001 (02) [E/LS]

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From: Henry Pijffers [henry.pijffers at fluffyonline.cjb.net]
Subject: LL-L: "Color terms" (was "Language survival") LOWLANDS-L,
20.FEB.2001 (02) [E]

Marco Evenhuis wrote:
>
>In Zeeuws, we have 'blaeuw' for any colour stretching from blue to grey.
>It's used less and less in every day speech and replaced bij Dutch 'blauw'
>and 'grijs', except when describing the colour of a grey horse. In Dutch
>such a horse is called 'schimmel' and the colour is referred to as 'grijs'.
>In Zeeuws, we call this kind of horse a 'blaeuwen'.
>
In Dutch and Low-Saxon It's the same for cats and other animals. A
completely greyish cat, is termed a blue cat. Never understood why,
but that's how it is.

Henry Pijffers

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From: R. F. Hahn [sassisch at yahoo.com]
Subject: Color terms

Henry,

[The following is in Low Saxon (Low German) and English.]

Henry,
Welke "gryse" katten hebt 'n klöyr; dey is so 'n lüt beten blau.  Daar wegen
heytt de eyn sort "Russian Blue", "Russische Blaukatze", "Russisch Blauw",
"bleus russes", etc., ofschoonst nich elk eyn daar vun blau is; vaken sünd sey
eynfach grys or 'n beten bruun.  Blau is wat besünners.  Villicht is up düsse
wys' "grys" tou "blau" worden.
Gröyten!

Henry,
Some "gray" cats have a bluish tint.  That's why one sort is called "Russian
Blue", "Russische Blaukatze", "Russisch Blauw", "bleus russes", etc., even
though not all of them are bluish; some of them are simply gray or brownish.
Blue is special.  Perhaps this way "gray" came to be generalized as "blue."
Regards!

I wrote:

> Here are some of the main colors in the North Saxon dialects of Low Saxon (Low
> German) of Germany:
>
> witt [vIt]: white (> pale, clean)
>
> blau [bla.U], blaag ~ blaach [blQ:x]: blue (> drunk)
>
> violett [fio'lEt], vigelett [fige'lEt], violenblau [fi'o:ln,bla.U]:
>      violet, bluish purple (Eastern Friesland _zangen_ ['tsa.N:])
>
> rood, root [ro:t] ~ [roUt]: red (> blushed)
>
> purpur(rood) ['p`u3pu3(ro:t)]: (reddish) purple
>
> geel [ge:l]: yellow (> blond, golden, ugly, false; _geel snacken_ 'to
>      speak Germanized Low Saxon', 'to speak German', 'to talk in an
>      uppety/affected way')
>
> gröön [gr9.In], greun [grO.In]: green (> unripe, inexperienced,
>      immature, unprocessed; e.g. _Aal gröön_ 'fresh (vs smoked)
>      eel', _grönen Heern_ 'fresh (vs smoked or pickled) herring')
>
> gries [gri:s], grau [gra.U], graag [grQ:x]: gray (> pale, pallid,
>      ashen, clever, cunning; e.g., _He is 'n Griesen_ 'He's a
>      devious one')
>
> swart [sva:t], swatt [swat]: black (> dark)

I forgot:

bruun [bru:n]: brown (apparently without any derived meanings -- or?)

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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