LL-L "Etymology" 2002.02.04 (03) [E]

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From: "John M. Tait" <jmtait at altavista.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.01.30 (09) [E]

Ron wrote:

>Ah, the _Concise Scots Dictionary_ supports this Welsh > Scots loan
>theory, pointing out that Scots _lum(b)_ 'chimney' is related to Modern
>Northeastern English _lumbe_ 'roof opening', and then "cf. obs. Welsh
>_llumon_ 'chimney'."
>
>> So I can't see anything difficult about the progression
>> L. lumen -> W. llumon -> S. lum.
>
>Neither can I.  But apparently this connection has not been made.  Or
>has it?  I wonder if Welsh etymologists have come up with Latin _lumen_
>> Welsh _llumon_.

The English for the roof opening is _louver_, from Old French lover,
lovier, which Chambers cites as 'origin obscure'. Would this be related?
I know nothing about Romance philology.

The Norn word was *lyora (preserved only in old rhymes), lyorin,  from
ON ljo/ri, with the same meaning. But in some areas, [lju:s], ON _ljo/s,
was apparently used.

John M. Tait.

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