LL-L "Names" 2002.06.14 (02) [E/LS]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

> From: Helge Tietz <helgetietz at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Names" 2002.06.13 (04) [E/LS]

> Ik mutt woerkli seggen dat ik ni seker boen of wi dat
> word "leeg" in Wistedh no bruk hebbt, wul hebb wi
> "sied" bruk ("de stool is mi to sied"). Dat magh wul
> ween dat dat een ool word is wat vlich min
> Groessoellern no bruk hebb, awer voendaaghs heff ik
> dat nuems meer hoert, wul begreep ik wat dat beduet.
> Foeher haett man ok "duven" bruk so as in "Duvenstedt"
> doch dat word ward ok all lang ni meer bruk.

[English below]

Düt "duven" (bedüüdt dat "leeg", "neddern", "sied"?) find sik denn wull
ook in de noorddüütschen Plaatsnaams "Duvendiek", "Duvensee",
"Duvennest" un "Duveneck."  Denn glööv' ik ook, dat 't sik in de
nedderlandschen Plaatsnaams (Nedderlannen un Belgien) "Duiven",
"Duiveland", "Duivestraat", "Duivenhoek" un "Duivendans" findt.
(Neddersassisch <uu> = nedderlandsch <ui>)  Stimmt dat?

I looks as if this _duven_ (does also it mean 'low'?) is also contained
in the North German place names "Duvendiek", "Duvensee", "Duvennest" and
"Duveneck."  To go one step farther, I assume that it is also contained
in the Dutch place names (of the Netherlands and Belgium) "Duiven",
"Duiveland", "Duivestraat", "Duivenhoek" and "Duivendans".  (Low Saxon
<uu>/<oe> = Dutch <ui>)  Is this correct?

Grötens/Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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