LL-L "Etymology" 2002.06.29 (02) [E]

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From: kcaldwell31 at comcast.net
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2002.06.28 (01) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language varieties
>
> Gary,
>
> > There is however also the word 'ridge' in English with
> > the meaning of the back of a hill etc., cognate with
> > 'rigg'. I thought the Shetlandic 'rigg' was the
> > natural development of the word in Scots, rather than
> > a Norse loan - I could be wrong! I think Scots uses
> > something like 'brigg' (sorry Sandy and other Scots
> > speakers if that's horribly misspelt!) cognate with
> > 'bridge', in a similar development. If Nottingham
> > English has 'rigg' and not 'ridge' I would be
> > surprised, and this would probably point to a loan
> > word.
>
> Lowlands Saxon has _Rügg_ [rYC] 'back' (usually misspelled as _Rüch_,
vs
> plural _Rüggen_ ['rYgN=]) and _Brügg_ [brYC] (usually misspelled as
> _Brüch_, vs plural _Brüggen_ ['brYgN=] -- Hello! Can you say "final
> fricativization"?).
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Unless I'm mistaken, "ruck" in English "rucksack" (knapsack, backpack)
is from the same root.  And "rucksack" has been borrowed into Russian as
"ryukzak."

Kevin Caldwell

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Kevin,

_Rucksack_ is a Swiss Alemannic loanword in German, from _Ruggsack_
(which would be *_Rückensack_ if it were Standard German, *_Rüggsack_ or
*_Rüchsack_ if it were Lowlands Saxon).  Alemannic varieties, especially
those of the south (mostly Switzerland, some in far southwestern German
and in farwestern Austria) did not umlaut as much, and _Rugge_ or _Rugg_
are the words for 'back'.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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