LL-L: "Expressions" LOWLANDS-L, 24.MAR.2002 (04) [E/D]

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From: burgdal32 at mac.com [burgdal32 at mac.com]
Subject: "Expressions"

>> From: Herman Rempel <hrempel at mb.sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: LL-L "Expressions" 2002.03.19 (05) [E]
>>
>> Disen Ütdruck  hab jie dochwoll uck aul emol jeheat "Ekj sie saut" wan
>> eene met de Moltiet foadijch es.   Noch een Ütdruck dän wie bruckte wan
>> wie äte wulle es "Lot't scheen scmakje"  The expressions are very
>> interesting. I hadn't thought there was that much tosay about aabout
>> expressions of this sort      Keep it up
>> Herman Rempel
>
> From: Helge Tietz [helgetietz at yahoo.com]
> Subject: "Expressions" 2002.03.21 (01) [E/LS]
>
> Reading this version of Low Saxon, obviouisly from
> North America, I notice something which almost all
> "colonial" Low Saxon dialects seem to have in common:
> The pronounciation of initial "g" as a "j" (or in
> English as "y" like in yesterday) whereas the
> origional Low Saxon areas have a German-like initial
> "g". I know that East Prussian had the "j",
> Brandenburg has it. The dialect of Angeln (East of
> Flensborg), origionally Soenderjysk (a Danish dialect)
> speaking has an initial "j" sound as well sounding
> similar to the flemish "g". But, I read as well that
> in the origionally Low Saxon areas as e.g. Holsten
> the "g" used to be pronounced like a "j" as well and
> there are some left-overs as e.g. in the place name
> Jevenstedt in Holsten which was origionally spelled
> "Gevenstedt". I wonder whether this is simply due to
> the fact that the origional Low Saxon areas have
> changed while the colonial Low Saxon retained the
> origional "g" sound or whether the colonial "j" is due
> to other developments ?
Hello again!

The g or j  pronounciation is very much present in the various flemish
spoken area's.
Some examples

      E               D                West-Flemish   French-Flemish

   say              zeg                   zeg              zeg
   said             gezegd/gezeid         gezeid          ezeid
   day              dag                   dag             dag
                    uilenspiegel          ulenspiegle     ulenspiejel
   laid             gelegd                geleid          eleid
   you              gij / jij             gij/jij/you     Je/you
   (grant)          gunnen                jeunen
   (favor)          gunst                 junste
   gin              genever/jenever       jenever         jenever
   to fly           vliegen               vlieg'n
   egg              ei                    ei              ei
   yellow           geel                  géluw/gilw      gilw
   (envious)        afgunstig             afjonstig
   away             weg                   weg
   yours            jouw/uw               gulder/julder   joèn
   (bless)          zegenen               zeinen
   eye              oog                   wogge           wogge
   high             hoog                  ooge            ooge

And meany others...  (And it works on both sides)
Greatings,
Luc Vanbrabant

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