LL-L "Etymology" 2002.05.21 (07) [E/LS]

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From: "Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann" <Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann at epost.de>
Subject: "Etymology" 2002.05.21 (06) [LS/E)

Hi, Ron,

You're great!

Night!

Fiete.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Fiete,

> You're great!

{blush}
Low Saxon: Och, laat mi an Land!
Translation:
British: Oh, go on! (which you can take anyway you wish)
American: Agh, get out o' here!

Ik schreev:

> _Spreken_ -- de Verbform vun
> _Spraak_ -- was dat "eernsthafte" Woord daarför in ole Tieden un wardt
> ook noch in 'n Barg neddersassische (nedderdüütsche) Dialekten bruukt
> (in 't Oostfaalsche un in d'n Oosten).

I wrote:

> _Spreken_ -- the verb form of
> _Spraak_ 'language' - used to be the "serious" word for 'to speak' in
> earlier times and still is in quite a few Low Saxon (Low German)
> dialects (in Eastphalian and eastern dialects).


/spreek-/
spreken ~ spräken ~ spriäken

ik spreek ~ sprääk ~ spriäk(e)
du sprickst
he/se/dat~it sprickt
wi/ji/se spreekt ~ sprääkt ~ spriäkt ~ spreken ~ spräken ~ spriäken

Preterite:
/sprouk-/ ~ /spröük-/
ik sprook ~ spröök
du sprookst ~ spröökst
he/se/dat~it sprook ~ spröök
wi/ji/se sproken ~ spröken

Past participial:
spraken (also written _sproken_)

Isn't _spreken_ also archaic and/or stilted in Dutch?  What about
_spreek_ in Afrikaans?

Kumpelmenten/Regards,

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