LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.04.15 (02) [E]

[Lowlands-L]

======================================================================
L O W L A N D S - L * 15.APR.2003 (02) * ISSN 189-5582 * LCSN 96-4226
http://www.lowlands-l.net * admin at lowlands-l.net * Encoding: Unicode UTF-8
Rules & Guidelines: http://www.lowlands-l.net/rules.htm
Posting Address: lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org
Server Manual: http://www.lsoft.com/manuals/1.8c/userindex.html
Archives: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html
=======================================================================
You have received this because you have been subscribed upon request.
To unsubscribe, please send the command "signoff lowlands-l" as message
text from the same account to listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org or
sign off at http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html.
=======================================================================
A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
L=Limburgish LS=Lowlands Saxon (Low German) N=Northumbrian
S=Scots Sh=Shetlandic V=(West)Flemish Z=Zeelandic (Zeêuws)
=======================================================================

From: Clark Hapeman <egsidf at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Gaelic influences in Scots


Does anyone know the extent of the Gaelic influence there has been on the
Scots dialect?

Clark Hapeman

----------

From: Ian James Parsley <parsleyij at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language Varieties

Guid Fowk,

Just as a first point, many of the people themselves
would inform you politely that the term is
'ScotCH-Irish', not 'Scots-Irish' as some recent
history books have it.

Scotland did in fact have some Roman influence,
although none of it was incorporated into the empire,
and it most certainly had Angles and Saxons about the
place (though again, perhaps not as much as what is
now England), as well as Normans and all sorts of
others of course.

Scots itself is a Germanic language and in many ways
it strikes me as a more typical Germanic tongue than
Standard English. However, the fact is that research
on contemporary Scots and indeed on Scots literature
is urgently required to answer just how much this is
true.

The same applies to Gaelic influence. I don't know of
phonological influence, but certainly there is
grammatical (_A'm efter daein..._) and lexical
(_sonse_, _slogan_ etc). Again, though, this needs
research - proper, real research, not the type
designed to suit a political agenda!

Whether the Scots and Scotch-Irish are themselves a
Germanic *people* is of course another question, and
these days probably an irrelevant one. There is little
doubt contemporary Scottish culture, with its kilts
and tartans, is heavily Gaelicized.

Regards,
=====
------------------
Ian James Parsley
www.ianjamesparsley.net
ian at ianjamesparsley.net
+44 (0)77 5335 5495
JOY - "Jesus, Others, You"

================================END===================================
* Please submit postings to lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org.
* Postings will be displayed unedited in digest form.
* Please display only the relevant parts of quotes in your replies.
* Commands for automated functions (including "signoff lowlands-l") are
  to be sent to listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org or at
  http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html.
 =======================================================================