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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.02.25 (13) [D/E]

> From: lingoman at webtv.net <lingoman at webtv.net>
> Subject: Phonology
> And Stan, I think the Dutch speakers have answered your question, and I
> certainly agree with the native speakers.  But your original question,
> and original pronunciation wasn't completely off the mark.  I have
> heard
> Dutch people pronounce nieuwe with a "v" sound.  This seems to me to be
> a spelling pronunciation, and I certainly don't think it's widespread,
> but I do have an otherwise wonderful old book (A Dutch phonetic reader
> /
> E.E. Quick & J.G. Schilthuis.  University of London Press, 1930) with
> Dutch texts in IPA transcription, and they use the "v" pronunciation in
> similar words throughout.  My theory is the sound shift that seems to
> have happened during the 20th century, whereby Dutch w became more or
> less v, and v became more or less f, but that's another can of worms!
>
> Sean Roach
>
That is only the case in  the Netherlands. In Belgium there was no
sound shift,  the "w" stays a "w", and  the  "v" stays a "v".

Groetjes
Luc Vanbrabant
Oekene

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