LL-L "Language enclaves" 2003.01.22 (02) [D/E/Z]

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From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Lowlands enclaves" 2003.01.21 (04) [E/Z]

Liza Janse,

Laat ik nou ook iemand zijn die al vele jaren meer
over deze mensen wilde weten.
Ik weet dat tig jaren geleden een paar van deze mensen
op de tv in beeld kwamen; zij wilden wel terug.
Effectief is misschien de ambassade in Brazilie te
benaderen.
vr. gr. Theo Homan
>
> From: liza janse <zierik2000 at yahoo.se>
> Subject: Contests
>
> L.s.
> For quite some time I am trying to locate people
> from
> zeelan d who moved to brazil around 1920 or before
> read artickles about them in some paper those people
> seem to speak zeeuws some old form of that.
> I would like to come in contact with them because I
> am
> highly interested in their living conditions because
> it seems they are poor and thereforprobabely dont
> have
> computers  sorry for bad english meh kant ok int
> zeeuws doe ah dat wil de groetenisse eh uut
> zierikzee
> op schouwen bitje koud ier foh de rest heet weh
> liza janse

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From: Marco Evenhuis <evenhuis at zeelandnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Lowlands enclaves" 2003.01.21 (04) [E/Z]

Liza Janse ei geschreve:

> For quite some time I am trying to locate people from
> zeelan d who moved to brazil around 1920 or before
> read artickles about them in some paper those people
> seem to speak zeeuws some old form of that.
> I would like to come in contact with them because I am
> highly interested in their living conditions

Huj Liza,

Volgens mien ei je je vraege via de Zeêuwse Taelsite oôk a een keer perbere
stelle (of zòiets dan toch). Vee 'ulpe ka je nie verwachte, vreês ik. 't Gae
om een groep mensen die a nie eênst 's via een ver'arde wegt te bereiken is,
laet stae da ze e-mail è. Volgens mien bin d'r nie eênst 's tillefoôns
daèzò. En elektriek è ze van aggregaten.

De Zeêuwen daer a jie 't over eit, bin tussen ca. 1875 en 1910 nae gunter
vertrokke. Ze kwaeme naebie aol uut 't Land van Kerzand.
West-Zeêuws-Vlaenderen dus. En ze è d'r eige gevestigd in een plekke die a
ze Holanda genoemd è.
Ze è d'r benauwd lange over gedae om op te gaen in de Braziliaanse
gemeênschap. Mae noe weune d'r meer afstammeliengen van Zeêuwen buten 't
oorsproenkelijke durp as d'r in. En in 't durp weune noe meer mensen uut
Pommeren as Zeêuwen.
De meêste 'Zeêuwen' buten 't durp wete nie eênst meer 's a ze uut Zeêland
komme. Ze 'ouwe 't zelf op 'Olland. Ze praote oôk ienkelt mae Braziliaans,
weune & werke in de grôtere steden en è varder naebie gin contact meer mee
't durp Holanda.
Van wat at er van de Zeêuwen in 't durp zelf over is, praote de ouwere
generaties nog Zeêuws mee mekaore. 't Dialect is 't West-Zeêuws-Vlaoms van
rond 1900. Da betêkent nie eênst 's zòvee verschil mee 't West-Zeêuws-Vlaoms
van noe a je kiekt naè klanken, woordvurmieng, grammatica en zò. Mae wat at
't vocabulair angaet, is t't taemelijk ouwerwes netuurlijk. 't Gae trouwens
maer om een klein groepje mensen; in 't durp weune amperan 20 Zeêuwse
fermieljes/een man of 'onderd. Daèvan praote d'r maer een stik of 20 nog
Zeêuws.

Wat a stikke interessant is, is dat 't Zeêuws daè vuuf generaties nae de
emigratie nog leeft. A is t't mae 'aolf. In 't plekje Zeeland in Michigan,
waer a rond dezelfde tied nog vee meer Zeêuwen naè vertrokke bin en waer
naebie gin butenstaenders waere (nog aoltied is meer as 60% van de
bevolkienge d'r van Zeêuwse komaf), was de taele a rond 1950 op z'n retour.
Noe is n d'r uutgesturve.

'k È nog wè een paer tips vo je: d'r is ergensten een Lutherse kerke in
Nederland die a mee regelmaet 'ulpgoederen nae gunter briengt (welke kerke a
dat is, weet ik nie) en in de Zeêuwse Bibelotheek in Middelburg è ze een
videoreportage over deze 'Zebra's' (Zeêuwse Brazilianen). Daè ka je dat
Zeêuws-Vlaomse dialect oôk op terug'ore.

De naerstigeid d'r mee & de wind vanachter,

Marco

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