LL-L "Orthography" 2003.07.28 (03) [E]

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From: "Mathieu van Woerkom" <mathieu.vanwoerkom at student.kun.nl>
Subject: Orthography

Hi Peter, you wrote:

> I have noticed the word for swing (E); schommel (D); schaukel (G)
written
2
> different ways in Limburgs. The way I know it is spelt as sjogkel and I
> believe this is Mestreechter taol. I have seen it in a Limburgs
dictionary
> spelt as sjókgel. Are both these spellings appropriate or is one of the
> spellings not correct?

I'd say that both spellings are appropiate. First of all, there are no
official spelling guide lines for the Limburgish language, there are only
some (good) efforts.

The combination gk and kg both represent the exact same sound which can't
be
found in Dutch: the g as in English 'good'. Since there are no official
guide lines, both gk and kg can be found in written Limburgish, therefor
neither is 'wrong'. The o and ó represent a slightly different
pronounciation of the o-sound, I guess.

Look further and you'll probably find more alternative spellings! :-)

regards,
Mathieu

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "Orthography" 2003.07.28 (01) [E]

>  From: Peter Snepvangers <snepvangers at optushome.com.au>
>  Subject: Etymology

>> I have noticed the word for swing (E); schommel (D); schaukel (G) written
2 different ways in Limburgs. The way I know it is spelt as sjogkel and I
believe this is Mestreechter taol. I have seen it in a Limburgs dictionary
spelt as sjókgel. Are both these spellings appropriate or is one of the
spellings not correct?

Reply:

In my homevillage version (Vliermaal, Belgian Limburg)
the word is "sjok".

"sj" is used as in Dutch, e.g. "sjouwen" (lug, drag)
it corresponds phonetically to "ch" in French "chanter"
or to "sch" in German "schön"
or to "sh" in English "show".

Regards,
Roger

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