LL-L "Celtic connections" 2003.06.04 (08) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Celtic connections" 2003.06.04 (06) [E]

A chairde,

Luc wrote:
"This brings me to my question: Is there any language where Celtic did
leave a substantial fingerprint on the absorbing language?"

Yes - the Anglo-Irish variant of English (which employed large amounts
of Irish lexicon, grammar and phonology and
flourished in the period of the switch from Irish to English as the main
language of Ireland, c. 1850-1900), the Yola
language of south-west Ireland and Fingal in Co. Dublin (both extinct by
the 19th Century), the various Englishes of
Wales, Scotland, the Isle of Man, Cornwall and contemporary Ireland, and
of course Scots and Ulster Scots (Ulster
Scots in particular).

I would presume the Gallo variant of Frenc, with its Breton substrate,
could also be included in the above list, but I
know absolutely nothing about it.

Go raibh maith agaibh

Criostóir.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Celtic connections

Aren't Celtic influences also found or at least suspected in various
German dialects, such as those of Bavaria and Franconia (e.g.,
http://www.caesar-michel.de/eurodial/euro.html)?

Of course, "influences" does not necessarily mean "loanwords." Even
where lexical importations are lacking (were avoided by Germanic
speakers, according to some claims), absorption of Celtic speakers may
have resulted in phonological, morphological and/or syntactic
influences, all of which would have taken place on a less conscious
level.  This certainly happened with Slavonic influences (substrates) in
the eastern dialects of German and Lowlands Saxon, where phonological
influences are stronger than lexical ones, aside from numerous Slavonic
place and personal names.

Certainly, like French, Bayuvarian (Bavarian, etc.) and Alemannic
dialects have undergone very peculiar sound shifts (e.g., [wa] or [oa],
such as in Standard German _Heim_ = Bavarian _Hoam_, cf. French <oi>
[wa]).

Cheers!
Reinhard/Ron

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