LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.11.01 (05) [E]

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From: Roger Thijs, Euro-Support, Inc. <roger.thijs at euro-support.be>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2003.11.01 (01) [E/LS]

> From: Mathieu. van Woerkom <Mathieu.vanWoerkom at student.kun.nl>
> Subject: Language varieties
>
> As far as I know, Dutch 'graag' is 'gaer'  or 'gaere' in (the southern
> dialects
> of) Limburgish; I'm not sure about the Limburgish dialects in Belgium and
> Germany...
>
> regards!
> Mathieu

"Gjan" in Southern West-Limbuegish (Lonerlands of Haspengouw).
It follows (often) the transformation "vowel +r" --> "j + vowel":
kers -> kjoës
Kersmis --> Kjoeësmis
aarde --> jaat
graag, gaarne --> gjan
Hern (naam van een gemeente) --> Jaan
kern (pit in appel) --> kjaan
vers --> vjoeës
vorst (van het dak) --> also: vjoeës

vier --> vier, but
veertien --> vjottein
veertig --> fjottich
vierhonderd --> vier hondert

Exceptionally also, I think, when r preceeds the vowel:
(ver)branden (werkwoord) --> (ver)bjanne
(though in English it comes with vowel +r:: burn)
Particular is also bron --> boeën since both "born" and "bron" appear in
written toponomy.

The rule is not always valid though:
vowel+rst --> may give loss of r (and t), but no j
korst (van het brood) --> koos
borst --> boos

Just some words passing my mind.
Obviously the presentation above is incorrect in a sense that it present
things as if Limburgish developped as a mutilitation of standard Dutch.

Regards,
Roger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

It's _geyrn_ (<geern> [ge.I3`n] ~ [gi:3`n) in North Saxon dialects.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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