LL-L "Names" 2003.09.09 (07) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.09 (02) [E]

>> From: Peter Snepvangers
>> <snepvangers at optushome.com.au>
>> Subject: Names
>>
>> Dag Lowlanders,
...
>  There is also a name from about 1600 in
>> Noord Brabant called
>> Dingmannus and also a Dingeman. I have absolutely no
>> knowledge of its origin
>> or meaning. [...]

Hi Peter
The "ding" was something like a parliament in the old days. So
"Dingeman(s)" was a member of that parliament.

Groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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From: Floor en Lyanne van Lamoen <f.v.lamoen at wxs.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2003.09.09 (02) [E]

Dear Ron and Evert,

Evert:
> > In my mother tongue, Dutch, a "wijk" means a part of a village or city.
> Sometimes, it's used
> > for the whole village or city, like my place of birth: Harderwijk (or
> Harderwiek). I wonder if
> > the same applies to other languages?

Ron:
> This is also very common in place names of Northern Germany, in Lowlands
> Saxon (Low German), Frisian and Danish.  It occurs as _-vik_, _-wyk_,
> _-wiek_ and _-vyk_.  The largest town on the North Frisian Island of Feer
> (German _Föhr_) is simply Wyk.

And a well known city in the Netherlands is called "Wijk bij Duurstede".

In Scotland I know of Prestwick

The origin of the "wijk" words is however Latin (vicus).

> Harderwijk (which in LS would be Harderwiek) sounds to me like "Herder's
> Bay" of "Shepherd's Bay."  If this is correct, I guess the Dutch version
is
> only half converted, ought to have been *_Herderwijk_.

I don't know. Although Harderwijk is at the Veluwe border, where many
shepherds will have been, it was mainly a harbour of the "Zuiderzee", if
I am not mistaking. "Harder" is indeed a Dutch variant of "herder" but
it is also a type of fish...

Kind regards,
Floor van Lamoen.

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