LL-L "Phonology" 2003.09.09 (08) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.09.07 (03) [E]

> From: Holger Weigelt <platt at holger-weigelt.de>
> Subject: "Phonology"
>
>> From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
>> Subject: Phonology
>>
>> Beste Sandy (en annere liëglanners),
>>
>> I was very much surprised to read your comment about some Scottish
> dialects
>> inserting /j/ before an initial vowel. Something similar is happening
>> in
>> Brabantish.
>>
>> We say "jäär" instead of "aarde" (D) ~ "earth" (E) for example.
>> .......
>> This /j/ is also sometimes inserted, even if the vowel is not the
>> first
>> letter, hence "pjäät" "(B) for "Pferd" (G), horse (E); "kjoemmern"
>> (B) (<
>> "cumen" Middle Dutch), "to wail" (E); "vjääs" (B) ~ "vaars" (D) ~
>> "Färse"
>> (G), "heifer" (E); "mjäät" (B) ~ "maart" (D) ~ "März" (G) ~ "March"
>> (E).
>>
> ....
>> Luc Hellinckx
>>
> Hello all !
> The second phenomenon Luc mentioned we know also in some local
> variants of
> Eastern Friesland Low Saxon.
> There instead of the common _twäj_ (two) we find _twiej_, instead of
> _pērd_
> (horse) we find _pierd_ or _piärd_, _kêrl_ (man) becomes _kiärl_ and
> more.
> It is a kind of palatalization and may be connected to Frisian where
> for
> example in the case of _k_ it goes further changing the whole
> consonant to
> _ts_.
> Regards
> Holger

Dear Lowlanders,

In my West-Flemish we have some similar words:
D: Been - geen - teen - klein - weide(n) - keren - twee - breed - laag...
V:  bjin - gjin - tjin - kljinne - wji(nn') - kjirn - twji - brji -
ljigge...
E: leg - none - toe - little - meadow(s) - to turn - two - broad - low...
But we do not insert /j/ before an initial vowel.

groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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