LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.19 (11) [D/E/LS]

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From: Szelog, Mike <Mike.Szelog at CITIZENSBANK.com>
Subject: "Etymology"


Floor van Lamoen said:

"Het is welbekend dat kinderen soms moeite hebben met woorden die
eindigen op -sp, zoals wesp en gesp, die zij uitspreken als weps en
geps.Nu hoorde ik onlangs dat het Zeeuws voor rups (caterpillar) nu juist
'risp' is. Net een verandering andersom.
Zijn hier meer voorbeelden van?"

It's curious that I have heard the opposite in English. Immigrant adults
from the Indian subcontinent and children from all backgrounds tend to
pronounce the word 'crisps' as 'crips' (meaning, of course, what Americans
refer to as 'chips').The reason for this is very probably the same as it is
for Dutch and Zeelandic (Zeeuws) - the avoidance of a difficult consonant
combination, though I think you will agree that the English _-sps-_ is more
difficult to pronounce than _-ps_ alone!

John

Preston, UK.


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From: Terrence Connor <tconnor at broadpark.no>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.09.19 (06) [D]

Dag laaglanders

Lyanne schreef:

"Het is welbekend dat kinderen soms moeite hebben met woorden die
eindigen op -sp, zoals wesp en gesp, die zij uitspreken als weps en
geps."

Misschien is het kinderachtig, maar op het noors is wesp ...   "veps"
(bokmål) en  "kvefs" (nynorsk). Het  fries heeft ook waps/weeps.
En natuurlijk heeft afrikaans "perdeby".

old english: wæfs/wæps/wæsp
old saxon:   wepsia/waspa
old high german:  wefsa/wafsa

Groetens
Terrence

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