LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.24 (12) [E]

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From: John Duckworth <jcduckworth2003 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Language Contacts


Pat wrote:

"The OED derives it from the verb, which it derives, ultimately, from
the Persian (I think it's Persian) word 'Shah' (king)."

You have looked up the wrong 'check'. This etymology is for the chess
'check', as in 'check mate', which is derived from a mixture of Persian and
Arabic Shah mat [Sa:h ma:t], which means 'the king is dead'. The OED seems
to think that 'cheque' ( with variant 'check') comes from the verb 'to
check', but I really think that it could be from the Arabic Sakk, possibly
even a word used by the Jewish financiers who were expelled from Spain after
the Christian takeover by Fernando and Isabella.It would need a little
research to prove it though.

Regards,

John
Preston, UK.

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From: Anja Meyfarth <anja-meyfarth at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Language contacts" 2003.09.24 (07) [E]

Hello Lowlanders!

Ron wrote:

> English first names are or used to be common in Heligoland, even more
common
> than in places like Hamburg (where John and Jenny used to be very popular
at
> one time).  In Heligoland you find the name James quite a bit, such as the
> famous local writer James Krüss (http://www.james-kruess.de/home.html,
> http://www.james-kruess.de/biografisches.html, see one of his Frisian
poems
> below).

As to names the surname "Kirk" is not unusual on the island but I've got no
idea where it comes from. It might be derived from germanic "kirke" (E
"church"), one might think of a different origin (Scotland or Ireland) as
well.

Greetings from Kiel,

Anja

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