LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.08.10 (05) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.08.09 (05) [E]

> From: john feather <johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Pennsylvania Dutch
>
> I've just read Bill Bryson's "Mother Tongue", which must be one of the
> worst
> books on the development of English ever written. I'd be happy to
> debate
> this if anyone's interested but here I want to put one question.
> Bryson says that Pennsylvania Dutch is an English dialect. I think he's
> confusing two different things. Pennsylvania Dutch proper is truly a
> German
> dialect stemming, I think, from the Mittelrhein region. But its
> speakers
> also speak a variety of English which is heavily affected by PD, the
> substrate language. This contains the "comic" turns of phrase which
> Bryson
> mentions. Is this right, and is there a separate name for the English
> dialect which avoids the terminological confusion?
>
> John Feather
> johnfeather at sceptic1.freeserve.co.uk
Hello,
When i look at the website
http://www.heorot.dk/
about Beowulf, i have the same feeling as quoted in  the the earlier
letters. I find it rather easy to understand the story. To have the whole
picture is  an other thing. But when i look at the transcriptions
into modern English or German , a lot of times i find it much  easier and
closer to translate it into my Flemish. It helps a lot when i try to forget
the spelling and focus on the possible pronounciation. A lot
of words still exist in my Western Flemish.

groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Much appreciated, Luc, as always.  You put your finger on a very important
point, I think: Much of what impedes mutual comprehension among Lowlands
varieties (and all Germanic varieties, for that matter) is lack of
orthographic cohesion.

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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