LL-L "How do you say ...?" 2004.08.18 (05) [E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "How do you say ...?" 2004.08.17 (01) [E/LS]

> From: Utz H. Woltmann <uwoltmann at gmx.de>
> Subject: LL-L "How do you say ...?" 2004.08.16 (07) [E]
>
>> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: How do you say ...?
>>
>> Here's my Lowlands Saxon (Low German, North Saxon dialect) bit:
>>
>> _bourn un tagen_ (<boorn un tagen>)
>>
>> _Tagen_ ['tQ:gN] is the past participial form of _te(g)en_ ['te:GN] ~
> [te:n]
>> 'to pull', 'to drag', also _up-tegen_ (<uptegen>) 'to pull up', 'to
>> raise
> (a
>> child)' (past part. _up-tagen_ <uptagen>).
>>
>> So, ...
>>
>> (1) Ik bün in Hamborg bourn un tagen.
>> (2) Bourn un tagen bün ik in Hamborg. (implying that I live somewhere
>> else
>> now)
>> (3) Ik bün 'n bourn(en) un tagenen Hamborger.
>> Regards,
>> Reinhard/Ron
>>
> Dear John, Dear Ron,
>
> may I add the expression from Bremen: "tagen un baren". A real  native
> of Bremen is called a "Tagenbaren".
>
> Best regards
> Utz H. Woltmann
Hello,
In V we say:
geboren en getogen,
meaning born there and still living there:
-Ik ben een geboren en getogen West-Vlaming.
When i live somewhere else i just use the past:
-'k Was een geboren en getogen Bruggeling.
One can also say:
J'is van ... afkomstig (E, lit.: he is coming from)
J' is van Ingelmunstre afkomstig.
Also:
J'is geboôrtig van Ingelmunstre.

groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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