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From: Thomas <t.mcrae at uq.net.au>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2004.08.25 (09) [E]

> From: Lowlands-L <lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET>
> Reply-To: lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:44:36 -0700
> To: LOWLANDS-L at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG
> Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2004.08.25 (09) [E]
>
On 25/8/04 Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>The "bumps" were also
>done in Cornwall, with the same ritual of "dumping" the victim in the
>nearest water feature (usually a pond).

Och Criostoir,
we'd nivver hae flung onyboady in waw/er like that. We cuid uff goat sum o'
oor ain glaur washed oaff anaw. :-)

Regards
Tom
Tom Mc Rae PSOC
Brisbane Australia
"The masonnis suld mak housis stark and rude,
To keep the pepill frome the stormes strang,
And he that fals, the craft it gois all wrang."
>>From 15th century Scots Poem 'The Buke of the Chess'

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From: Kevin Caldwell <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2004.08.25 (04) [E]

> From: Thomas <t.mcrae at uq.net.au>
> Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2004.08.24 (13) [E]
>
> > Reply-To: lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
>  OnTue, 24 Aug 2004 14:21:18 -0700 Pat Reynolds <pat at caerlas.demon.co.uk
> wrote...
> > Spanking isn't an English tradition. In England, children used to be
> > given 'the bumps' (held by arms and legs, and gently, or not-so-gently
> > bounced on the ground, once for each year) by their peers.
> In Scotland, at least in the Lothians, a schoolkids was gien his/her
> "Dumps"
> on their birthday by most other kids in his school class and the street
> where he/she lived.
> Victim had to turn round then the Dumper would thump the back once for
> each
> year of the age counting aloud as this was done. The ceremony ended after
> the final year dump with several bonuses.."Yin fur the Day. Yin fur the
> Moarun. Yin fur the day that Yew wur boarun (extra hard one). An yin fur
> the
> auld man's kick." This latter was accompanied by a kick up the victim's
> bum.
> A queue of friends usually formed to administer this blessing.
> While I write in past tense I am sure this game is still played.

Here in the US, the birthday spanking is quite common for children - one
swat for each year, and "one to grow on!"  Some people add, "And a pinch for
an inch!"

Kevin Caldwell

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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Traditions

I keep wondering if this now playful birthday beating, which may have
arrived in North America from Scotland, developed from the Protestant,
Puritan (Calvinist?) belief that a very strict upbringing, including regular
corporal punishment, was essential for making children grow into good,
"God-fearing" members of society.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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