LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.02 (06) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2004.12.01 (06) [E]


Tom McRae wrote:
"Thanks for this great compilation Ron, frankly I never encountered many of
the words listed but those examples of traditional Scots cuisine adequately
explain why... a. I learned to cook decent meals. b. I moved to Australia."

Porridge _is_ a decent meal. In winter it is the only way to start the day,
although it is a labour to cook and as a probable coeliac the gluten does me
more harm than good. I used to eat it in Australia, too... but then I used
to eat a great of Australian marsupial wildlife, too, and still do at the
slightest opportunity.

Atlantic cuisine (Lowlandic / Celtic) seems to be harsh and stodgy, and not
all that popular if Lowlanders or Celts are given alternatives (I admit my
home made cuisine these days is more Italian than Cornish or Irish, and most
Irish people seem to prefer Chinese food to anything else, in much the same
way that the English have indigenised Indian cuisine).

But nothing has yet been proven to beat that classic Atlantic hearty
meal-in-one-go the Cornish pastie, which I shall be having tonight as it
happens! (Homer Simpson has pork chop night. I have pastie night.)

Go raibh maith agat,

Criostóir.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Críostóir (above):

> Porridge _is_ a decent meal.

Of course, Críostóir!  I can't speak for Tom, but I was mostly joking (as I
believe was Sandy when he cracked bunches of jokes about porridge a long
time ago).

In fact, when I do have high-carbohydrate foods these days (which is pretty
rare) it tends to be oats, in great part because much of their carbo content
is not absorbed, especially if you cook them with fat (usually dairy).
Their roughage content outweighs their disadvantages.  I prefer Irish oats,
though, even though they're a bother to cook (usually helped by overnight
soaking and pressure-cooking).  I use pre-cooked rolled oats, mixed with oil
or melted butter, in lieu of flour doughs and crumbles on things like
American-style fruit cobblers or crisps -- a pretty good low-carb
adaptation, a great treat for diabetics if prepared with sweetener instead
of sugar.

I believe in "eating locally," i.e. eating mostly the types of foods that
grow locally, because they tend to be right for surviving in a given
climate.  I eat foods of the old Lowlands mostly in the wintertime here in
North America, and then usually on special occasions.  In Australia I ate
very few of them, because it rarely got nearly cold enough.  There I mostly
ate traditional local foods as well as those of my Portuguese, Italian and
East Asian neighbours.  No doubt, porridge is a great thing for cold
climates.

When I was a child in Hamburg, we used to eat a local variety of porridge
(LS _haver-grüt_ <Havergrütt> ~ <Hobergrütt>, G _Hafergrütze_ "oat grits"  ~
_haver-bry_ <Haverbrie> ~ _haver-brey_ <Haverbree> ~ <Hoberbree>, G
_Haferbrei_ "oat mush," under the general category label LS _melksup_
<Melksupp> ~ _milksup_ <Milksupp>, G _Milchsuppe_ "milk soup"), though I
admit it wasn't my favorite and tended to involve drama and struggles of
will when I was little ...

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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