LL-L "Resources" 2004.01.04 (03) [E]

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A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
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From: Georg.Deutsch at esa.int <Georg.Deutsch at esa.int>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2004.01.03 (06) [E]

Dear Ron,

you wrote:
QUOTE
The official website of the city/state of Hamburg (my native stomping
ground) -- http://international.hamburg.de/ -- has a bunch of versions in
other languages -- yes in the original language of the land as well.
UNQUOTE

Nice to look into the different versions!

The quoted homepage shows for most languages the flag of the main country
associated with the language.
For Low Saxon, however, a combination of five or more flags is indicated.
Could you identify them? I assume they reflect the German Bundeslaender
where
Low Saxon is spoken, but couldn't verify this.

In a former version of the Lowland-L site there used to be a collection of
flags referring to the countries/provinces where a Lowlandic language is
spoken, but I think this does not exist any more.

regards

Georg

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Resources

Servus, Georg, Lowlanders!

Thanks for your response, Georg.

First a correction of what I wrote:
The actual homepage (starting page) of Hamburg is this:
http://www.hamburg.de/ , while http://international.hamburg.de/ is the
starting page for language versions.

Now to the flags or heraldic emplems of the eight North German states that
have officially recognized "Low German" as a "regional language."  Please
visit this page: http://www.kennzeichen.org/wappen.htm , and look for the
following German names:

Brandenburg
Bremen
Hamburg
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern [Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania]
Niedersachsen [Lower Saxony]
Nordrhein-Westfalen [North-Rhine-Westphalia]
Sachsen-Anhalt [Saxony-Anhalt]
Schleswig-Holstein

These are the relevant states and their emblems.

You can see the state's geographic position and their capitals on this
simple map:
http://www.kennzeichen.org/k00.htm

Some Lowlands Saxon (Low German) dialects are spoken in the very north of
Hesse (_Hessen_) as well, but this state has not officially recognized the
language.

Berlin is, technically speaking, just within the general southeastern
dialect range (with considerable West Slavonic influences), close to the
transitionally LS-German dialect range of Central Brandenburg.  However, due
to having been a metropolis and the national capital for a long time, the
native language is now extinct, and among ordinary people a type of
Missingsch (German on LS substrate) took its place.

In addition to the features in the Dutch and Danish versions I mentioned
yesterday, please also note the following community-specific features in the
language versions of the Hamburg site:

Catalan: Catalan soldiers as contingents of the occupying
   Napoleonic troups; immigrants from Catalonia
Chinese: relations with China
Czech: relations with Czech Republic; Czech emigrants leaving
   for the Americas from Hamburg
German: emigrants off to the "New World"
English: relations with Britain; emigrants
Spanish: relations with Latin America; memorial for Simón Bolívar
Esperanto: emigrants leaving Europe
French: relations with France; French occupation
Greek: relations with Greece; Greek community
Italian: relations with Italy; Italian community
Japanese: relations with Japan; local Japanese institutions
Norwegian: relations with Norway
Lowlands Saxon (Plattdüütsch): language acitivities and institutions
Polish: relations with Poland; emigrants leaving from Hamburg
Portuguese: relations with Portugal; Portuguese Jewish community
Russian: relations with Russia; emigrants leaving from Hamburg
Serbo-Croatian: relations with Yugoslavia; Croatian cultural center
Finnish: relations with Finland; emigrants leaving from Hamburg
Swedish: relations with Sweden; Jean Baptiste Bernadotte stationed
   with Napoleonic troups, later to become Karl XIV Johann, King of
   Sweden
Turkish: relations with Turkey; Turkish community

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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