LL-L "Administrativia" 2004.01.23 (07) [E]

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From: Mike <botas at club-internet.fr>
Subject: LL-L "Administrativia" 2004.01.22 (09) [E]

Positive vote from me, Mike Wintzer

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Subject: LL-L "Administrativia" 2004.01.22 (09) [E]

> This is how I operate these days.  I am open to suggestions, though.
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

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From: Mike <botas at club-internet.fr>
Subject: LL-L "Administrativia" 2004.01.22 (09) [E]


Moin Ron,
2 quick questions, on- or off-list as you choose.
What does it mean when you put a word between *asterisks*?
When you state you might take up Frisian again, which Frisian are you
talking about?
(West I presume)
Kumpelmenten,
                     Mike

LIKE HERE:
> *know* you are perceived as troublesome (and you can be assured that I

AND HERE:
> three Lowlands languages I am in the process of learning.  (I might take
up
> Frisian again, so be forewarned, folks.)

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From: R. F. Hahn lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net
Subject: Administrativia

Thanks, Mike.

> What does it mean when you put a word between *asterisks*?
> LIKE HERE:
> > *know* you are perceived as troublesome (and you can be assured that I

It is a convention to indicate bold print, while _ _ indicates italic
(cursive) print.

> When you state you might take up Frisian again, which Frisian are you
talking about?
> (West I presume)

Westerlauwer Frisian,* the standard variety used in the Netherlands, at
least at first.  This has many reasons.  Suffice it to say that I consider
it the "largest" Frisian language communities with the largest body of
published material and a choice of good courses, textbooks and reference
books, and it is the only community that truly got its stuff together as far
as standardization is concerned.  I can read all varieties of Frisian, but I
feel confident to use none of them myself.  Later on I would most likely add
some proficiency in East Frisian (Sater Frisian) and in Continental North
Frisian of Moring (_Frasch_).

* For the sake of staying on the good side of our friends in the
Netherlands -- or, more correctly stated, to support them -- I do not use
the name "West Frisian" with regard to those Frisian varieties, even I wish
we could.  In the Netherlands, _Westfries_ is a certain group of Dutch
dialects with Frisian substrate.  This sort of "terminological intrusion"
has disturbed the symmetry.  This is not unlike the fact that in Germany
"Saxon" (_Sächsisch_) for a group of German dialects has spoilt the broth of
those of us who think that "Low German" ~ "Low(lands) Saxon"
(_Niederdeutsch_ ~ _Plattdeutsch_ ~ _Nedersaksisch_) would be more
appropriately called "(Modern) Saxon" ((_Neu-)_Sächsisch_), since, unlike
the German dialects of Saxony, it is the descendant of Old Saxon.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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