LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.07 (06) [E]

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A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
L=Limburgish LS=Lowlands Saxon (Low German) N=Northumbrian
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From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.07 (03) [E]

Dear David

 Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

> I've found in 'The Dream of the Rood'
> 'þæt wæs géara iú   - ic þæt gýta geman
> þæt wæs áhéawan  holtes on ende'
>
> where 'on ende' is glossed as 'from the edge' .

Well, I don't altogether agree with that gloss
Going strictly with Afrikaans I would read it as 'oneindig = unending or
endlessly, without end'
I read the 'on' as meaning 'un' or without.

Yrs Sincerely,
Mark

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From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.07.06 (09) [E]

Dear Gavin

 Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

> Scots of course has its own privative prefix wan-, as in wanhowp,
wanchance,
> etc.  I don't think it's used productively any more, except perhaps by
Scots
> who know German ohn- and wish to create a reformed anti-Latinate language.

I believe you are wrong, & that it is fundamental to your old language. It,
or the cognate 'waan' is still a necessary tool in Afrikaans.

Waan = fancy, delusion, idolum (logic), hallucination, conceit, error.
as in: Gewaan = fancy, waanbeeld = fantasy, delusion, waandenkbeeld = false
notion, waangeloof = superstition, waanhoop = despair, waansin = insanity
(that old one), waanvoorstelling = hallucination, waanwys = conceited.

On the other hand, 'wan', as a prefix simply meaning 'without' (as I take it
in Old English & Old Northumbrian) takes simply pages of the dictionary,
from:

'Wanaangepas = maladjusted (the psychological condition - again)', through
'wanhoop = desparation', to 'wantrouheid = distrustfulness'.

I do remember C S Lewis using the word 'wanhope' in context, but such a
scholar would have more & older words in his working vocab than most of us.

Yrs Sincerely,
Mark

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