LL-L "Names" 2004.05.03 (03) [E]

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A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
L=Limburgish LS=Lowlands Saxon (Low German) N=Northumbrian
S=Scots Sh=Shetlandic V=(West)Flemish Z=Zeelandic (Zeêuws)
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From: Tom Maguire <jmaguire at pie.xtec.es>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.05.02 (03) [E]

Hello All,

Sandy says:

> Ignorant in what way? Why is it ignorant to say "Scotch"?

Because you ignore what the people you are referring to think of the
term - patently obvious on this list

> This isn't a term that's been used as an insult historically (like
"nigger"
> or "sassenach"). It's not a term based on a geographical misconception
(like
> "England" for the UK or "Russian" for all residents of the old USSR). It's
a
> perfectly ordinary English word that Scottish teachers tell Scottish
> children is wrong, without giving any reason.

"Insult" is your word, not mine. I do not think it is insulting, simply
ignorant, as I said.

> Or perhaps your teachers explained it better than mine? Could you explain
> where the hidden insult or misconception in the word is?

The misconception is that one dialect in the same language can override
another. If the Lowlands dialect understands "Scotch" as relating to a
liquid and not to people, why shouldn't the referred-to people not
insist that other dialects of the same language follow suit and not
confuse them with a liquid? Seems to me little to ask.

Ignorance may be bliss. However, if the attitude is that the majority
dialect steamrollers others, then we have a different argument. That's
the one I am interested in.

Regards,

Tom
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From: Gaidheal <gaidheal at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.05.02 (03) [E]

Latha math, a Lowlanders;

Said Sandy:
This isn't a term that's been used as an insult historically (like "nigger"
or "sassenach").

"Sassenach" is a term that I've wondered about: How intense is this word? I
would class it, as Sandy apparently does, with "nigger" in negativity, but
I'd like others' opinions as well.

Beannachdan,
Uilleam Òg mhic Sheumais

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