LL-L "Language varieties" 2004.11.08 (03) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at worldonline.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.07 (01) [E/Arabic/Italian]

>>>>>Dear Pyt (Pieter?),

I don't see any trouble in the _Latin-ness_ of Interlingua.
The fact is that Interlingua still is understood by many many more people in
Europe and the world at first sight, and virtually nobody will understand
Esperanto without having studied it before. You'll see that yourself when
you would compare the Interlingua version of the Wren with the Esperanto one
(that is, if that will be made).
Esperanto isn't by far as easy as its 'soldiers' always declare.
The reason I like Interlingua so much more is a linguistical one:
Interlingua is very pleasant because it's a naturalistic language, it was
designed by a number of renowned (American) linguists in rhe fifties, who
took a few decades to create it.
Esperanto was knockt together by someone who knew nothing about linguistics,
just because of political reasons.
The idea was alright, but the result could have been so much better...

Now, don't think I am such an advocate for a constructed language to be used
in Europe or anywhere else.
For me, I am just a "lunatic lover of languages", not one of these idealists
(Socialists, Maoists or Communists) that usually propagate Esperanto or
other ConLangs. Not even my own
Middelsprake, that's just a hobby.

But I think Interlingua can have some use as a Lingua Franca between
speakers of, say, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian and Catalan, who
will all understand an Interlingua text
immediately without any trouble.
Because it would be a bit strange for those speakers of Romance languages to
use the in many ways unrelated English as a common language.

So Pyt, I don't want to offend you or anyone else, but that is my personal
opinion about Interlingua and Esperanto.
I'm looking forward to your translation of the Wren in Esperanto...

Have a nice day, best regards! Ingmar Roerdinkholder

> From: Pyt Berg <pytbergy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.03 (07) [E]
>
> The trouble with Interlingua is it seem to derive TOO MUCH from Latin and
> forgets
> that at least 200M people in Europe speak a Germanic based lanaguage
> and another 300M speak a Slavic based language.
>
> At least Esperanto takes MORE of these Languages into account.
>
> I think it is little patronisning to ignore this fact when considering a
> more "universal"
> language for Europe at least.
>
> Pieter.
>
> ----------
>
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Anniversary
>
>> Pieter (above):
>
> > At least Esperanto takes MORE of these Languages into account.
>
> I don't think anyone can argue with that, Pieter.  What you got were
> personal opinions about Esperanto, not a "bashing" and not an exclusion.
> Personally, I am not crazy about Esperanto (and really any artificial
> language), but that is, as I said, personal.  I certainly respect the
> movements and the people and effort behind it, and know that the
proponents'
> hearts are in the right place in my personal opinion.
>
> By the way, an Esperanto version of the wren story would be quite welcome,
> and feel free to write your anniversary "blurb" in that language too, if
> you
> wish.  ;-)

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