LL-L "Resources" 2004.11.14 (04) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at worldonline.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Resources" 2004.11.14 (03) [E]

Henry:
> Oh, and [...I'm looking...] for Lowlands Saxon etymological dictionaries
too, of course, but
> I don't think there are any. Are there?

>>>>> Not yet I think, I mean not as long as we don't write them ourselves
;-}
But maybe there are German "Niederdeutsch" dictionaries that mention Middle
Low German or Old Saxon etymologies too? I wouldn't know, someone else
might...

At least there is a Dutch Etymologisch Dialectwoordenboek, I think by
Weijnen but I'm not sure of that.
It's not only for Low Saxon but for all Dutch and Flemish dialects. I saw it
today in the public library of Arnhem again. I borrowed it once but didn't
find it very interesting to read myself, to be honest.

Hold fast, Ingmar

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Resources

German etymological dictionaries, such as the _Herkunftsduden_, usually give
explanations about Lowlands Saxon (Low German) words that entered German
(and there are many).  LS etymologies are provided in some academic works
with large numbers of volumes, small circulations and very high prices.

I encourage you to do some of your own research by means of old languages
German dictionaries, of which online versions (German, with some English
reverse versions) are now being developed by the very prolific Gerhard
Köbler in Innsbruck, Austria, who deserves a prize or two for his community
service:

Old English:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/aewbhinw.html

Old Frisian:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/afrieswbhinw.html

Old Low Franconian:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/anfrkwbhinw.html

Old Saxon:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/aswbhinw.html

Old German:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/ahdwbhin.html

Old Norse:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/anwbhinw.html

Gothic:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/gotwbhin.html

Germanic:
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/germwbhinw.html

Indo-European:*
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/idgwbhin.html

*_Indogermanisch_ ... What the ...?!  I know it's still common, but when
will they ever quit this nonsense?  I suspect this one slipped by the
terminology laundry a few decades ago.

Isn't there a nifty Van Dale dictionary on CD?

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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