LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.23 (11) [E]

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From: Szelog, Mike <Mike.Szelog at citizensbank.com>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.23 (05) [E]

Yes, I was going to do a sound recording - I'll try and get it to you at
some point next week.

I kind of like just the "ic scell æfter hine" - just sounds better and kind
of leaves it to one's imagination!

Maybe it would be best to just leave out the final verb.

BTW - do you have any good leads for an online A/S dictionary - I'm looking
for Modern English to A/S - I have a good paperback dictionary (J.R. Clark
Hall's Concise A/S Dictionary).

Thanks,

Mike S

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From: Ruth & Mark Dreyer <mrdreyer at lantic.net>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2004.11.05 (03) [E]

Hi Ron & All.

Subject: Anniversary

Firstly, my regrets that I have been out of the picture for so long.  I was
called out to my Father's farm to deal with an emergency, & there was little
enough time to prepare myslelf, let alone my friends.

I would have liked to say how much you could have benefited from my input,
but it isn't true. Every query I might have siezed upon was amply managed by
someone else, & what a pleasure to hear their input! There is a definite
upside to evesdropping - um er - sorry, 'lurking'.

> Thinking about an encouraging message for my own "blurb," I thought of
> something like a motto, a commonly used, though now somewhat oldfashioned
> Lowlands Saxon (Low German) maxim: _Hold fast!_
>
> I thought that speakers of pretty much all Lowlands language varieties
ought
> to understand it.  Is this correct, or am I deluded?
>
> It does mean literally "Hold fast!" (_Hou(d) vast!_ in Dutch and
Afrikaans,
> I guess), "Hold on!", "Stay with it!", "Don't give up!" and the like, or,
as
> our friend Glenn Simpson says in Northumbrian, "Keep ahaad!", or   って
> _ganbatte!_ in Japanese.

Dead right there. At least it is true of Afrikaans. but if I may insert a
little wedge, and say there is a small difference in Afrikaans; let me worry
it out. If we say 'Hou vas die balk!' it means "hold the baulk fast." If on
the other hand we say 'Ek het 'n houvas op hom!' it means "I have a grip on
it." but if the holder feels it is more than he can manage, & says so, then
his partner will tell him 'Vasbyt!' which is as much as to say "Hold Fast"
but literally means 'Bite fast!' the kind of advice a bulldog might give, or
take.

This 'Vasbyt!' would be the word an Afrikaner took for his leuse - his
motto.

Yrs, Mark

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Anniversary

Mike, try these online dictionaries:
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/oldenglish/index.php
http://homepage.uibk.ac.at/homepage/c303/c30310/aewbhinw.html
http://www.ling.upenn.edu/~kurisuto/germanic/oe_bright_glossary.html
http://www.doe.utoronto.ca/

Mark, welcome back!

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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