LL-L "Administrativia" 2004.11.30 (03) [E]
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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Administrativia
Dear Lowlanders,
A number of people have joined us since my last administrative message
(October 20), and I would like to welcome them on everyone's behalf. At the
end of this message you will find a list of their places of residence.
Please bear in mind that many of our subscribers live in places and
countries in which they are not native. In fact, with regard to language,
ethnicity and nationality our group is more diverse than a mere list of
places of residence seems to indicate.
I am also pleased to welcome a few returning Lowlanders.
Before I get to normal List business, let me remind you of our upcoming 10th
anniversary (April/May 2005) and the anniversary project we are putting
together: a collection of translations of a Lowlands Saxon (Low German)
folktale in various Lowlands language varieties (*any* varieties) and other
languages, both reading and for listening. You will find the raw material
here: http://www.sassisch.net/rhahn/low-saxon/ls-story.html . But we will
present this elsewhere, jazzed up, and with sound. It’s going to be really
terrific.
Some subscribers have already contributed to this. Thanks to all of them.
Contribution recognition awards will be handed out later.
More is needed, folks! Besides translations and sound recordings, we need
subscribers' brief (1-3 paragraph) introductions, preferably with pictures,
but contributions without pictures will be gladly received too. Just
introduce yourselves, say where (in general) you live and originally come
from, what sorts of interests you have, and what your experiences and/or
first impressions you have as relates to Lowlands-L. We want to show folks
out there the diversity of membership. We do not want to impress them with
great names and achievements, just show them that virtually anyone at any
level of knowledge and experience and from any part of the world is welcome
to join us and is likely to gain something from it. If you are new to the
List, by all means, introduce yourselves and tell us what you hope to get
out of it and what your experiences have been so far. You may do so in any
language you like, do not need to write in English or in another Lowlands
language. If you do it bilingually, that would be great.
If you want to contribute introductions or translations, please send them to
me (sassisch at yahoo.com), and I will pass them on to Mathieu van Woerkom, our
webmaster who is designing a very nice new site for the occasion. We are
not concerned about duplication. If there is already a translation in your
language, please send us yours anyway. No two people tell a story exactly
alike, nor do they have exactly the same pronunciation. The main thing is
that your write and speak in a *natural* way. If you want to contribute
sound recordings, please get in touch with Henry Pijffers
(henry.pijffers at saxnot.com) who will also be happy to give you technical
advice and instructions.
Normal List business:
It is important to remember the following.
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considered simply OBNOXIOUS.
Please, folks, read and understand the rules and guidelines! It's really
important.
Rules and Guidelines:
Dutch: http://www.lowlands-l.net/index.php?page=regels
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Russian: http://www.lowlands-l.net/index.php?page=rules-ru
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attest, this has been working really well, certainly beats the old, crude
method of signing off and on again. Once in a while people find themselves
unsubscribed without notice. Some of them immediately suspect the worst:
that I have "booted them out" for some infraction or other. (I know this for
sure only about those that contact me.) Please do not jump to this
conclusion unless you have received prior reprimands and warnings (which has
occurred very rarely, not at all for well over one year). If you find
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filters and adjust them if necessary, and only contact me about the problem
if all of the above fails. Should you indeed be disconnected, please write
to me or resubmit an application
(http://www.lowlands-l.net/index.php?page=subscription). I'll be more than
happy to bring you swiftly back to the fold.
Let me remind you that, while there may be differences of opinions and
approaches regarding some issues, it is best to assume that your fellow
subscribers are basically on your side, if not your friends and allies. This
assumption is a good preventive measure when tempers want to flare up. No
one here is out to "get" anyone else, and what once in a while may feel like
a rebuke from anyone, including myself (and I have been on both sides of
this), please bear in mind that this is not meant to haul you over the
coals, to humiliate you and to declare your input as worthless and you as a
person as inadequate. Think of them as challenges, for there can be no
fruitful discussion without challenges. Of course, if you are the one
dishing out such challenges please do so with as much gentleness, politeness
and respect as you can possibly muster (and be prepared for some people
feeling "shot down" even then). Having said this, let me hasten to add that
there is a difference between occasional challenges on the one hand and
constant challenges simply for the sake of challenging and of arousing
people's anger on the other hand, namely behavior patterns that are
unwelcome here and on any other list.
Again, dear Lowlanders, thanks for your support and cooperation and for all
those interesting contributions past and future!
4 more months to go till our 10th anniversary ... and our membership keeps
on growing.
Regards,
Reinhard "Ron" F. Hahn
Founder & Administrator, Lowlands-L
lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net
http://www.lowlands-l.net
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Places of Residence of New Lowlanders since October 20, 2004:
Argentina:
Capital Federal:
Buenos Aires [1]
Australia:
Victoria:
Melbourne [1]
Belgium:
Eastern Flanders (Oost-Vlaanderen):
Ghent [1]
Western Flanders (West-Vlaanderen):
Varsenare [1]
Brazil:
Minas Gerais:
Belo Horizonte [1]
Contagem [1]
Canada:
Alberta:
Lacombe [1]
Ontario:
Ottawa [1]
Finland:
Uusimaa:
Espoo [1]
France:
Aube:
Troyes [1]
Germany:
Northrhine-Westphalia (Nordrhein-Westfalen):
Remscheid [1]
Hungary:
Csongrád:
Szeged [1]
Ireland:
Co. Uíbh Fhailí/Offaly:
An Tulach Mor/Tullamore [1]
Netherlands:
Drenthe:
Hoogeveen [1]
Friesland (Fryslân):
Donrijp [1]
Grönnen/Grinslân/Groningen:
Grönnen/Grins/Groningen [1]
South Holland (Zuid-Holland):
Amsterdam [1]
Katwijk [1]
Utrecht:
Utrecht [1]
Nigeria:
Lagos:
Lagos [1]
Spain:
Madrid:
Madrid [1]
South Africa:
Gauteng:
ePitoli/Pretoria [1]
Oostkaap/Eastern Cape:
eRhini/Grahamstad/Grahamstown [1]
United Kingdom:
England:
Hertfordshire:
St. Albans [1]
Lancashire:
Lancaster [1]
South Yorkshire:
Doncaster [1]
United States of America:
Arcansas:
Little Rock [1]
California:
Hacienda Heights [1]
Florida:
Hialeah [1]
Illinois:
Naperville [1]
Louisiana:
Slidell [1]
Minnesota:
Baxter [1]
New York:
New York [1]
Oregon:
Sandy [1]
Virginia:
Charlottesville [1]
Wisconsin:
Madison [1]
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