LL-L "Folklore" 2004.10.13 (02) [E]

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From: Henry Pijffers <henry.pijffers at saxnot.com>
Subject: LL-L "Folklore" 2004.10.12 (02) [E]

Thomas <t.mcrae at uq.net.au> wrote:
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> In Scorland the Rowan was a potent charm against the Sidhe (Shee), or
Fairy
> Folks.
 >
I read a book (or 2) by Greg Bear about the Sidhe. In his book, he
described the pronunciation as something like "shdee" (I read the Dutch
version, where he wrote "sjdie", if I remember correctly). Is that the
correct pronunciation?

Pretty nasty folks, those Sidhe... At least in the literature mentioned.

Henry

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From: heather rendall <HeatherRendall at compuserve.com>
Subject: LL-L "Folklore" 2004.10.12 (02) [E]

Message text written by INTERNET:lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET
>Cold iron was yet another very powerful repellent<

As witnessed by the Bartmensch jugs often found under thresholds containing
iron nails!

Why Bartmensch jugs in particular I haven't a clue!

Heather Rendall

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Folklore

Henry, Tom, Lowlanders,

I take it the notorious banshee (< Irish _bean sídhe_ 'sídhe woman') is a
member of this _sídhe_
(shee) nation.

Her eery wailing at the imminent death of someone in the vicitinity has an
equivalent in Northern German folklore: the owl, especially the horned owl.
It has the same job.  This may seem less scary to you now, but I remember
that as a youngster staying with my paternal grandmother at her house deep
in the woods I was plenty scared when I heard owl calls at night, especially
being aware very young of the fact that people can suddenly die.  (I was fed
all those horrendous stories about World War II practically along with
mother's milk and baby food.)  Besides, my uncle, living in the same house
loved to tell us kids the scariest stories, some of them traditional and
some of them made up as he went.

Does this owl folklore exist elsewhere in the Lowlands?

This is the time to talk about it, what with Halloween just around the
corner (on the last night of October).

Heather, what is a "Bartmensch" (which seems to be German for "beard person"
= 'bearded man')?  Is it the type of jug or tankard with a bearded man's
face on the side?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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