LL-L "Etymology" 2004.10.30 (04) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at worldonline.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2004.10.29 (09) [E]

>>>>> Is Dutch _wier_ = seaweed the same word?
About Moi(n), I always thought this would be from _morgen_ (good) morning.
In Western Dutch the postvocal [r] is pronounced more or less like a [j];
morgen [mOjG@(n)]
About Dutch/Saxon _mooi_,  Frisian _moai_, this diphthong could be derived
from words with intervocal d too.
Like Coll. Dutch _rooie_ red < rode, _dooie_ dead < dode, _raaie_ guess <
raden, _moeie_ tired < moede.
But what this root with d would be then,  I don't know (Ingmar)

> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth.christiansen at gmail.com>
> Subject: Mooi
>
> mOI? (møj) or mÖI? in Jutish means 'much/a lot of' which is probably
> related to Norwegian mye and Icelandic mjög instead of related to
> Danish/Norwegian 'meget'.
>
> Can that have any relation to mooi ?
>
> I assume that moi/moin is related to mooi (mooie morgen, mooie avend,
> enz) which is used in Groningen, and most of Northern Germany and also
> South Jutland.
>
> I read somewhere that the moi'n subtraction comes from East
> Frisia...but I don't know if that is true or not.
>
> There is also Danish mø (untouched women, often consideres very
> beautiful) which is related to English maid, German magd.
>
> Anyway, just some ideas
>
> Kenneth

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From: Leslie Decker <lekkermeisje at earthlink.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2004.10.29 (13) [E]

All this talk about the Dutch word mooi just reminds me of a true story
that I like to tell.  When I was studying in Leiden, the Netherlands, I
had a friend from Aberdeen, Scotland.  It was the beginning of her time
there in Leiden, and she was taking a Dutch course.  One night, she went
to a party she'd been invited to, but she was very tired, and kept
trying to say so (her friends apparently wouldn't let her leave).
However, she mixed up 'moe,' the Dutch word for tired, with 'mooi'
(pretty) and so spent quite a long time telling everyone she met "Ik ben
mooi!  Ik ben zo erg mooi!"  Now this girl IS quite pretty, but....

 From then on, any one of my friends who was tired, was 'mooi.'

Leslie Decker
Austin, TX

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