LL-L "Phonology" 2004.09.02 (01) [E]

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From: Kevin Caldwell <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.08.31 (11) [E]

> From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
> Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.08.31 (07) [E]
>
> Mark Brooks wrote:
>
> > > And there is "route" the way they mispronounce it up north (in the
US).
> > > We
> > > all know it's supposed to rhyme with "house", but there are some that
> > > insist
> > > on pronouncing it to rhyme with "boot".
>
> There are many versions of the old rock hit "Route 66" (I'll just mention
> Sammy Davis Jr. and the Rolling Stones). And they all pronounce it
> correctly, the French way, which rhymes with "boot".
>
> So there,
> Gabriele Kahn

Hmm, I've always thought of it as a jazz song, not rock.

>
> I have also caught myself a couple of times, for the same reason,
> pronouncing "tomato" to rhyme with "potato."  This morning I didn't when I
> asked, "What's with the tomaahtoes?" in reference to a large bowl full of
> the said fruit (vegetable?), obviously garden-grown, on an office table
> designated exclusively to food sharing.  A newish office assistant -- very
> young -- commented that she had known about "I say 'tomayto', and you say
> 'tomahto' ..." in the song, but she "didn't know that anybody *really*
> says
> 'tomahto'" ...  So I told her that in that case she made an important
> discovery today.
>
> Sometimes it's hard to stick to your resident alien guns.
>
> But really, if it's "tomahto," why is it "potayto" and not "potahto"?  ;-)

I've heard some Americans say 'tomahto'.  There used to be a woman with a
cooking show on PBS who said it that way. I think she was from Ohio or
Indiana - somewhere in the Midwest anyway.

>
> Hey, Kevin!
>
> > Interestingly, the /raut/ pronunciation is standard when talking about
> > internet routers (I've always heard /rauter/, never /rooter/.
>
> > "They are re/raut/ing  (not 're/root/ing')traffic around the
> construction
> zone".
>
> Good points, if I may say so.  Why not "to route" and "routing" with an
> [aU]
> sound (as in "cow")?  Probably because it conflicts with to "to root" and
> "rooting," as in "rooting around"?  ;-)
>
> Tata and cheerio!
> Reinhard/Ron

But there's also "to rout" as in "to defeat decisively, put to flight" and
"to rout" as in "to gouge out", done with a power tool called a router,
which cuts channels in wood.  This "router" might be the reason the internet
machinery is pronounced /rauter/ - they're spelled the same, so we might as
well pronounce them the same.

Thought of some more words with "ou" pronounced as "oo" (I assume all from
French): routine, roux, roulette, rouge, roué, and pirouette.

Kevin Caldwell

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