LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.05 (09) [E]

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.05 (01) [E]

Hello Mark,

You were absolutely right when you stated that the ui-diphthong in general
Dutch starts with "a low front rounded  vowel moving to a high front rounded
vowel." The first element sounds like the vowel  in French 'soeur, seul'.
Together with the second element it sounds like French 'seuil'.

Roger Hondshoven

> From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
> Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.04.02 (01) [E]
>
> Ingmar wrote: "first say [a] (like in Dutch, German, Italian, Spanish etc)
> and then say [y](=Dutch/French <u>, German <ü>, Scandinavian <y>)."
>
> I read somewhere a long time ago that the Dutch <ui> was a low front
rounded
> vowel moving to a high front rounded vowel.  It sounds like what you
> described is a low back vowel to a high front rounded vowel.  Is what I
read
> before wrong?
>
> Mark Brooks

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