LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.08.01 (02) [E]

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From: Jan Strunk <strunkjan at hotmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.07.31 (04) [E]

Hohoho,

immer langsam mit die jungen Ferde!

> Interesting, that the Ruhrgebiet has both j- (as in Köln etc) and palatal
> g- (as in Southern Dutch/Kleverlands etc)! This indicates that j- for g-
> is derived from palatal g- originally, because we find dialects with j-
> next to those with g-. I think palatal g- is more difficult to pronounce
> for strangers, and that could be a reason that is was replaced by related
> but more common j- in cities, like Berlin, Köln, etc.
>
> The Ruhr-area is linguistically devided: the West is (was) speaking Low
> Franconian "Kleverland" dialects, and the East Low Saxon "Westphalian"
> dialects. So we could call it a linguistic Ruhrpott as well ;-)
>
> Ingmar

Well, I said you can *sometimes* find j- in the west of the Ruhrgebiet and
ch- in the east of it, but in the speech of the vast majority initial g- is
always realized
simply as a g-. But still I think that there is an east-west divide, but
it's not very
pronounced...

Jan Strunk
strunk at linguistics.rub.de

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