LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.12.06 (02) [D/E]

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06 December 2005 * Volume 02
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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

[English below]

Lieve Laaglanders,

Het Nederlandse reflexieve voornaamwoord _zich_ verwondert mij, omdat het 
tegenstrijdig met _ik_ schijnt. Het zou ofwel _ik_ en *_zik_ ofwel *_ich_ en 
_zich_  moeten zijn (als Nedersaksisch _ik_ en _sik_ of Duits _ich_ en 
_sich_ of Limburgs _ich_ en _zich_). Wat is hier gebeurd? Zijn _ik_ en 
_zich_ onder oorspronkelijke Hollandse en Vlaamse dialecten normaal of werd 
een foutje tijdens standaardisering gemaakt?

Vriendelijke groet,
Reinhard/Ron

Dear Lowlanders,

The Dutch reflexive pronoun _zich_ puzzles me, because it seems inconsistent 
with _ik_ 'I'.  It should be either _ik_ and *_zik_ or *_ich_ and _zich (as 
in Low Saxon _ik_ and _sik_ or in German _ich_ and _sich_ or Limburgish 
_ich_ and _zich_).  What happened?  Is _ik_ and _zich_ normal among original 
Hollandish and Flemish dialects, or was a mistake made during 
standardization?

Friendly regards,
Reinhard/Ron 

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