LL-L "Etymology" 2005.01.27 (01) [E/Polish]

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From: gochad24 at o2.pl <gochad24 at o2.pl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.01.26 (03) [LS]

> From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
> Subject: Language Varies
>
> Leeve Sellschapp,
>
> vÜÜr een Stood hevv ick wat leest in een olle Orkonn' van dat 15./16.
> Johrhunnert.
> Haar tau kriegen mit dat Diekrecht in dat Stedinger Land.
>
> Taumools hevvt se jemmer Lßßd, de taustännig  wÜÜrn fÜr de
SchlĂźsen, as
> "Slickswaren" benoomt.
> Net eben fÜfftig Joorn loter heet de sßlven Lßßd all "Slßßs-Swaren".
>
> Opp StĂźnns schriev ick jĂźst een Chronik van een MarschdĂśrp.
>
> As de Dßvel dat will: ick keek no in mien Ingeltet WÜÜrbauk un fßnn'
Ăźnner
> "slicky" de BedĂźden "trickreich, ausgefeilt, raffiniert",.
> Man- ick haar jĂźst schreeven, wat fĂśr de Marschlannen de SchlĂźsen
"vital"
> wÜÜrn, haar jem op Haugdßßtsch "raffiniert" benomt.
>
> "Schlßßs" schall jo woll van franzÜs. Orsprong ween: "clusee", villicht
ook
> Ăśller van 't Latiinsche: "cludere".
>
> Woans kann dat angohn- in een kotte Tied van 50 Joorn? Or hett dat woll
noch
> anner Orsooken, de ick ne begreepen hevv?
>
> Greutens
>
> Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
>
> ----------
>
> From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
> Subject: Language Varies (2nd)
>
> > -----UrsprĂźngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jonny [mailto:jonny.meibohm at arcor.de]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Januar 2005 23:25
> > An: 'lowlands-l at LOWLANDS-L.NET'
> > Betreff: Language Varies
> >
> > Leeve Sellschapp,
> >
> > vÜÜr een Stood hevv ick wat leest in een olle Orkonn' van dat 15./16.
> > Johrhunnert.
> > Haar tau kriegen mit dat Diekrecht in dat Stedinger Land.
> >
> > Taumools hevvt se jemmer Lßßd, de taustännig  wÜÜrn fÜr de
SchlĂźsen,
> as
> > "Slickswaren" benoomt.
> > Net eben fÜfftig Joorn loter heet de sßlven Lßßd all
"Slßßs-Swaren".
> >
> > Opp StĂźnns schriev ick jĂźst een Chronik van een MarschdĂśrp.
> >
> > As de Dßvel dat will: ick keek no in mien Ingeltet WÜÜrbauk un fßnn'
> Ăźnner
> > "slicky" de BedĂźden "trickreich, ausgefeilt, raffiniert",.
> > Man- ick haar jĂźst schreeven, wat fĂśr de Marschlannen de SchlĂźsen
> "vital"
> > wÜÜrn, haar jem op Haugdßßtsch "raffiniert" benomt.
> >
> > "Schlßßs" schall jo woll van franzÜs. Orsprong ween: "clusee",
> villicht
> > ook Ăśller van 't Latiinsche: "cludere".
> >
> > Woans kann dat angohn- in een kotte Tied van 50 Joorn? Or hett dat
> woll
> > noch anner Orsooken, de ick ne begreepen hevv?
> >
> > Greutens
> >
> > Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
>
> Verdimmich; bĂźn tohaup verkeert komen!
>
> > Haar tau kriegen mit dat Diekrecht in dat Stedinger Land.
>
> WÜÜr in dat "Kehdinger Land"!
>
> Greutens (taun Tweet!)
>
> Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm

Hello Johannes,
Sorry but I do not understand the language you have wriiten that
e-mail in. I speak only English and Polish.
Could you translate it into English, please?
Hope to hera from you,
Gosia Dymnicka

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From: R. F. Hahn <lowlands-l at lowlands-l.net>
Subject: Etymology

Witaj, Gosiu!

Powitanie na liscie dyskusyjnej forum! Miło mi.

Jonny wrote in Low Saxon ("Low German"), the language of Northern Germany
and the Eastern Netherlands, formerly also one of the languages of Northern
Poland (mistakenly referred to as part of _niemiecki (język)_), a language
that influenced Kashubian (among other languages).  (Polish, on the other
hand, has borrowed words mostly from [actual] German.)  Low Saxon is the
descendant of Old Saxon, which is also one of the ancestors of English.  It
is one of the Lowlands languages.

Just to clarify this for you ... Lowlands-L is a multilingual forum.  People
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I hope this clarified things for you.

It is nice to have you on board.

Cześć!
Reinhard "Ron" F. Hahn
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