LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.03 (07) [E]

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.03 (03) [E]

Heather wrote:
> Cynical or what ?

Well, I'm going to lay down on the sofa, no matter whom finds out, because,
between you and I, I could care less. It didn't used to be that way.   :-))

Gabriele Kahn

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.03 (03) [E]


Ben Bloomgren wrote:
"Chinese has the characters, which screw people up royally. Once you get
past the characters, you in lake wash hair. It is very easy. After
characters and tones, take off."

Of course! Didn't we once propose that Chinese characters should become the
single official written language of the EU?

Also:
"How did we go from rolled r's in ME to the half tap and the retroflex r in
modern English?"

There's a variant of English with retroflex consonants? I have only heard
these features in speakers of English who have Indic or Dravidian languages
as their mother tongue.
Ben J. Bloomgren


Gabriele wrote:
"By the way, I think that part of the upcoming LL pop quiz should be
spelling
Criostóir's name right without cutting an pasting... :-)"

Well, there's a problem straight away because I have no i-fada on the
computer(s) I use, so the i-fada on the first [i] is always absent when I
write. Some knowledgeable posters valiantly include it anyway, but its
absence is generally a guide to those who cut and paste.

Isn't it, Gabriele? :)

Glenn Simpson wrote:
"Can't use IPA I'm afraid - just an amateur, will have to learn (or 'lorn'
(pronounced 'lawn') as we say) I suppose. I try to keep things simple."

That's a shame. I would write your "learn" as /lorn/. Perhaps you could
create your own orthography?

Our erudite Heather Rendall wrote:
"People half remember having been taught never to say ' you and me' or ' me
and you' but always ' you and I' - so only half understanding grammar and
not at all understanding the difference between a subject and a
prepositional phrase, over-generalise and say both..."

Yep. That's me. I grew up always saying "you and me" or "person x and me"
but over the past five years have deliberately changed to write (but not
say) "you and I" and "person x and I". It's not a case of being made to feel
I was saying anything incorrect, it's just as I wrote "you and me" it began
to sound 'wrong'. So I switched.

Go raibh maith agaibh,

[kri:Sto:r]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Críostóir (ós):

> Well, there's a problem straight away because I have no i-fada on the
> computer(s) I use, so the i-fada on the first [i] is always absent when
> I write. Some knowledgeable posters valiantly include it anyway, but
> its absence is generally a guide to those who cut and paste.

Och, excuses, excuses ...  And talking about politicizing everything!  What,
pray, does the Intifada have to do with the spelling of your name?

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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