LL-L "Phonology" 2005.03.29 (01) [E]

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From: "waki" <yasuji at amber.plala.or.jp>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.03.28 (13) [E]

From: Yasuji Waki, yasuji at amber.plala.or.jp
Subject: IPA

Deasr Lowland friend,
When I started to learn English about 55 years ago, I learned the
international phonetic alphabet to know how to pronounce new words. Most of
dictionaries of foreign languages publisshed in Japan indicate how to read
all words listed in them by using the international phonetic alphabet. But,
when I started to learn German (Standar German), I found that even if the
same phoneitc alphabeet is used in English and German dictionaries, the
actual sounds seem a littel different from each other. Then, I am using the
international phonetic alphabet as a guide how to read or pronounce, but I
am using also CD or tape to know the actual pronunciation of words.

Best regards.

> From: Ben Bloomgren <ben.bloomgren at asu.edu>
> Subject: IPA
>
> Hello, List, my friend introduced me to the IPA, the International
> Phonetic Alphabet the other night. I'm not really sure how to work it yet,
> but I'd like to know how the Lowlands languages fit into the IPA. Any help
> would be greatly appreciated. The only trouble is that I can't actually
> rea  it. You'd have to use the descriptions such as c-wedge.
> Ben
>
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> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Phonology
>
> Hello, Ben!
>
> The IPA can be used to describe the phonetics of *any* spoken language,
> and this includes all the language varieties that are within our focus.
>
> Please visit this site:
> http://www2.arts.gla.ac.uk/IPA/ipa.html
>
> Your posting made me wonder if there is any IPA guide for the blind.  All
> IPA symbols have names, so it should be fairly simple to put together an
> online guide with descriptions and sound files that includes the blind in
> its target usership.  Now there's a great service waiting to be rendered
> if it hasn't already been rendered!
>
> I should mention that a system of representing IPA symbols by means of the
> basic ASCII range has been developed for electronic communication: SAMPA
> (http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/sampa/home.htm).  In it, distinction
> between lower- and upper-case letters is important, as are all sorts of
> punctuation symbols, and I wonder if reading software for the blind can
> make this distinction.

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From: Ben Bloomgren <ben.bloomgren at asu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.03.28 (13) [E]

Thanks, Ron, there is a site that I have found through your site that you
have sent. The only problem is that the redirect only takes me to a browsing
site for books. I have found several places wherein I can get a description
of several IPA characters like c-wedge.

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Thanks, Yasuji and Ben.

Well, I stand by my call for the creation of a comprehensive IPA guide
that incorporates additional information for the blind.  It would show
each symbol, describe its shape, list its name, describe its sound and,
ideally, provide a sound file as well as some examples.  It doesn't seem
very hard to do, considering that it could be based on existing guides.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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