LL-L "Anniversary" 2005.05.20 (08) [E]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Anniversary" 2005.05.20 (06) [E]

I understand that it sounded right, Mike, because Modern English <you> is
replaced by Middle English <ye> in many cases. No problem.
For me it immediately fell into sight, because in Dutch <jij> = <ye> and
<jou> = <yow>, and in Dutch Low Saxon <iy> vs. <ow>, German Low Saxon <jy>
vs. <ju>.
Were <ye> and <yow> already used as singular forms in Middle English, or
just plural and/or formal. And when and why did <thou> <thee> <thy> and
<thine> die out?

Ingmar
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>From: Szelog, Mike <Mike.Szelog at cfgcustomers.com>
>Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2005.05.20 (04) [E]
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>Change away! Not sure why I wrote ye for yow here; guess it just sort of
>sounded right.
>
>Mike S
>
>> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Grammar
>>
>> Ingmar:
>>
>> >In Mike's version: who hath YE don this vileynye. I'd expect YOW there,
>> >but of course I know nothing about Middle English.
>>
>> You're quite right there.  With Mike's permission I'll change it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Reinhard/Ron

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Anniversary

Mike wrote:

> >Change away!

I've done so.

It must be quite hard for today's native English speakers to deal with the
more complex grammar of an earlier variety of their language.  I believe
it's easier for Ingmar, myself and others to do it and to catch the error.
Hat off to you, Mike.

Besides, I supposedly proofread Mike's version, and I neglected to catch
that mistake ...  OK, so I'll go cut a switch ...

Thanks for your vigilance and input, Ingmar.  At least this way we know that
*someone* is reading it and paying attention.  ;-)

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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